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I had to update my address on my driver's license and they needed a couple pieces of mail with my new address and name on it to verify but I hadn't gotten any mail at the new place yet.

Then I started thinking about it more and realized I haven't actually received a letter addressed specifically to me in over a year, possibly in over 3 years. I have everything set to send by email because it isn't 1950 anymore. Am I just a loser with no corporate pen pals or is physical mail an antiquated form of address verification now?

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[โ€“] fizzle@quokk.au 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's plenty of these left over things.

Lots of official documents are issued electronically now, with no physical version.

Before with physical documents, if you wanted to provide a copy a bank would ask for it to be "certified as a true copy of the original". That's fine and sensible.

Then banks started asking for electronic copies of physical documents.... but still wanted the document that was scanned to say that it was a true copy of the original. The obvious problem being that once you have an electronic copy you could just print the "certification" part on to whatever document you like. Whatever though, that's what they ask for so sure.

More recently the final evolution of this shit show... a certified copy of an electronic document. So a client emails me a pdf, I print it, write on it that it's a true copy of the pdf that was emailed to me, scan that and email it back. Note that I'm not making any comments about the content of the document. Merely that it's a copy of some other document.

I guess proper verification is important at the end of the day but man, someone's gotta think of better ways. But we do live in a world where my insurance company prefers using fax machines and banks run dos systems.

[โ€“] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Where im at they generally want a utility bill and you can print out or show an image of it on a phone/tablet.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I once saw one require you to print it out because a screenshot can be edited. They were perfectly happy your you to print the screenshot. What fucking morons make these policies?

[โ€“] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The same that will ask you to present a government id number in 10 years to register to anything. Since with this decade's data breaches and AI, anyone will know everyone's PII and will be able to fake docs in seconds.

Which makes perfect sense

[โ€“] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems fairly outdated to me, but also completely inadequate. I've lived in my current spot for almost 3 years now, and I still routinely receive bills sent to a prior resident. Not even the most recent prior resident either, but someone who hadn't lived here in a decade or more, and somehow the utility company doesn't know that he's not gonna pay that bill they're sending him, even when I'm paying the same damn company for utilities at the same address.

Oh man, when I first moved into the new apartment, I was getting mail for like 5 different people and then 4 times in a week I got mail that wasn't even for my apartment, one of them wasn't even for my building.

You can totally use your lease.

[โ€“] disregardable@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I get a reasonable amount of mail. Like a few pieces/week. You could also use a lease/print out the utility bills in your name.

[โ€“] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They won't accept a print out but I requested some paper statements from my bank so that should be fine. Just seems a bit inconvenient for no reason other than not updating their procedures.

I recently went to the bank to get a letter on their headed notepaper to act as proof of account ownership. They just printed it out on blank paper from a laser printer.

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For proof or residence, it's usually bill for a utility with your name and address on it. That is to say, you can't show up with a birthday card sent to your address because anyone can send a birthday card with your name on it to any address, but the cable company, electric company, etc isn't going to send a bill to your address with your name on it unless you're on the hook paying that bill.

Is it outdated? Maybe a little. I think paper bills are still pretty normal, even if they're paid online, but increasingly less so.

[โ€“] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I try to avoid unnecessary mail when I can so anything I can set on autopay and get emails for I do, which has been everything for quite some time. I just feel like I'm getting less than 1% of the mail my parents used to get when I was a kid and before everything was done electronically

[โ€“] joe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I can say with some certainty that the amount of junk mail I get is not significantly lower than in the past, but that's not addressed to me, usually, it's almost always "current resident".

I doubt DMVs are going to move away from accepting mail, but they probably already have an option for your situation, like printing out something from a utility that equates to a bill with your name and address on it.

[โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never heard of this kind of address verification being a thing before, but definitely sounds like a hassle. I have actually received mail recently from my bank, but before that the last piece of mail I got was probably.. 3 years ago? Ish

[โ€“] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How do you guys verify where you are? It certainly is annoying, but good to hear I'm not the only one avoiding paper waste.

[โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a website for it, you go there, declare your place of residency, if you own the property you provide evidence of it, if it's co-owned with someone the other owners would have to confirm you live there, if you're renting your landlord would have to confirm it etc., and then they mark that as your place or residence and you're basically done :3.. the same process can also be done at your city's municipality as well :p

[โ€“] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now I'm not sure if that's more or less of a hassle than requesting mail

[โ€“] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yay bureaucracy! I mean, it's less of a hassle in a way that it doesn't require something you may not have (mail) lol. Other than that it's still dealing with government websites and whatever else

[โ€“] cattywampas@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What state? You should probably be able to use a utility bill for that purpose, even if it's a digital bill.

The large state of Canada. They said they wouldn't accept a printout and that I just have to request some physical statements or bills from the companies.