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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I'm sorry but my local government all Democrats have directly led to skyrocketing costs of owning electric vehicles and trying to power them up. You literally cannot afford an electric vehicle in the PNW unless you make over 200k a year, it's insane now.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I'm a gearhead. What fucking EV are you talking about? A brand new cybertruck? Lucid Air?

A Chevy Bolt can be had for under $10k and gets 4 miles per KWh on a bad day. I live in Spokane, which I'd consider the INW (inland northwest), but close enough to the PNW, where my electricity costs about 14 center per KWh. So for 14 cents I can go 4 miles. For $3.50 I can go 100 miles.

In a gasoline car that gets a respectable 50mpg, I could go roughly 50 miles for $3.50, considering Idaho fuel prices. If I filled up in Washington, I wouldn't get close to 50 miles.

If I made 200k/yr, I could afford to buy two chevy bolts per year, and still be spending less than a conservative 10% of my income on car purchases, not to mention the savings on fuel. I'm guessing a used Nissan leaf would be even cheaper.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

In my state, republicans slapped on much higher EV registration fees but when democrats came into power, they just left them there. This pattern seems to mirror the national strategy.

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.seattle.gov/city-light/residential-services/billing-information/rates

Base service charge per day: $0.4103 Energy per kWh: $0.1392

Typical EV: 0.35 kWh per mile Typical monthly miles: 700

So ($0.4103 x 30 days) + (0.35 kWh x 700 miles x $.1392) = ~$46 per month

Yep, gotta earn at least $200k to pay that whopper. And since gas for ICE cost more, you gotta make $400k to buy gas.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You missed the part about the extra fees, the carbon tax fee, the ev registration fee, the new ev road use fee, the exclusive ev parking fees, have I mentioned the new ev specific fee for new purchases?

Tldr; you missed a few fees.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Still cheaper then ICE cars

Carbon tax would be cheaper as long as the grid has a bit of renewables in it

Ev registration fee is supposed to make up for the gas tax for road infrastructure that EVs don't pay

[–] ryrybang@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

< $12,000, 2019. And there's plenty more cheaper.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/353048e4-7dcf-4efe-87ba-4e88fac918cf/

And I don't think any of those other fees justify the $200k figure. Especially with a $12k car that uses $50/month of electricity.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

power them up...PNW

If you're talking California electricity prices, I get you


those are pretty horrendous


but Oregon and Washington electricity prices are pretty decent.

https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/

National average for residential electricity is $0.18/kWh. California is $0.34/kWh. Oregon is $0.16/kWh. Washington is $0.14/kWh.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago

Our rates in WA have gone up 66% in 4 years and is estimated to go up 30-40% in the next 4 years. There's also all the new fees exclusively for EVs.