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The updated Denza Z9 GT can drive up to 1036 km (644 miles) on a single charge, the Chinese automaker says.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The american auto industry isn't even attempting to keep pace. They're just pretending the EV shift isn't happening and ICE engines will last forever.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't want to bail them out next time

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe they were using the GPS satellites to find an ATM machine, but couldn't remember their PIN number

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't just say ICE with everything going on right now.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ICE won't last forever, that much is true; not even if it's about engines.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What if we find a way to power vehicles with solidified water? Some sort of Cold Fission.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was just making a joke about an ICE powered engine. IE Solidified water.

But hey, maybe it could be some sort of reverse steam.engine where the cold air falls down over the turbine instead hot steam rising.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's okay to just say Combustion Engine or IC Engine. It takes a few seconds more to type but it removes all confusion.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

My thumbs will fall off.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

The S in GPS is for "system", not for "satellite": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

...which is exactly why you can't have 'em!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've seen a dozen BYDs on Phoenix streets the past couple years.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's probably possible to import from Canada and/or Mexico, though I imagine registering and insuring them is a hassle.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought I had read somewhere that Canada was going to allow like 50k chinese EVs to be sold each year starting this year or something along those lines

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Hasn't happened yet.

Canada buys 2 million cars a year, so 50K is fuck all.

[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

really?!? Pics or it didn't happen. :-)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People driving up from Mexico.

[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

still need pics... I understand they are not permitted in US.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I'll import one from Canada if that's all it takes

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You will pay a stupid amount of tariffs to own a car with no parts or service support.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but there is a chance even with the tariffs its more affordable.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The US industry isn’t actually trying to make better EVs anymore.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

They are, but only because Detroit consultants are reverse engineering Chinese EVs.

Detroit did the same thing with early VWs, then Hondas, but apparently they learned fuck all.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

644 miles I assume is at 100%, so longevity charging (80%) is 515 miles. That’s a really “take your EV car on a long trip” or “park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day, so you could feasibly leave it somewhere for a while when you get 515 miles range.

Man, really wished we had something like that at a reasonable cost in the US. I travel for work and have to leave my car idle for long periods, no EV charger in sight. Range like that would be perfect.

Edit: I don’t have an EV. The 1-2% is reported by industry reporters that state that battery conditioning, management, video systems, and system telemetry can consume up to 1-2% per day.

[–] Steve@communick.news 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day

They really shouldn't. If yours does, something's wrong. You should take it in.
I specifically left mine in an airport parking lot for a week. The high voltage main battery didn't loose even 1%.
The basic internal electronics are powered by an old school 12v battery. It should be able to keep the parked car alive for a few weeks at least. Even if the 12v dies, a simple "jump start" from any other car will let you turn it on again and get home. Just like in am ICE car, the 12v battery will charge while you're driving.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some of the cars with parking surveillance can use a lot of electricity when parked in a busier area with a lot of movement

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That'll just kill the 12v faster. Won't change with the range of the high volt battery.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The main battery will have to charge the 12v battery once the latter gets low enough though

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That won't happen while the car is parked. The 12v will just die like I said, and you'll need a jump start.

When you start the car and activate the high volt battery it will power the 12v system, including charging the 12v battery. But only once you start the car.

[–] Xbeam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have an Ionic 6. The main battery keeps the 12 volt properly charged while parked. It doesn't just let it die.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting. When I looked into how my 5 works. I was read it was as as I described.

I've only had it 6 months now. And it only sat parked and unplugged for an extended time, the once at the airport. So I've never really tested directly.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

lose 1-2%/day

Um, there’s something wrong with your car. I can leave mine for almost a week at times and the milage is still the same as when I charged it and unplugged it.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

644 miles means you could make it from Boston to Pittsburgh, San Francisco to San Diego, or London to Hanover with one charge... and plenty left over.

😔

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nyc to dc, then dc to nyc, and then nyc to dc yet again all on a single charge

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to say, the Sacramento to Portland I do regularly is just under 600 miles

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

BYD leaving Tesla in the dust

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Tesla has always been behind in battery tech. They spent very little in R&D, like typical US companies.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

+22.53km from the last record.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope the evolution of battery capacity keeps up, so one day we can buy a car that is simply pre-charged for 10000 km or more.

The increase from 100 to 1000 came about in a decade. I wonder what the limitations are.

Meanwhile the fuel efficiency for combustion engines seems to have maxed out decades ago.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Try using you brain...do you really want to carry around a gigawatt of potential energy?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

Hell yes I would.

A glass of water contains potential untapped energy of about 6 billion gigawatts. It's hardly dangerous.

I think the more crazy thing is to have a fucking bonfire running on gasoline in a metal box.

Most people would probably think you're a madman if you ignite a can of fuel just for LOLs. But they still do that every time they drive to work and back.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's that range aftwr 20 years if daily use?