What the fuck is going on in this thread? Feels like there are a lot of new low-quality accounts recently.
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Yeah, no. I understand the problems with intellectual property and copyright. Its not an issue at the core of my politics but I'm at least somewhat aware of it. That's not why people like me are pissed off over AI. We're justifiably disgusted that people are pressing a button to create amalgamations of other people's work. Work that, unlike whatever an LLM spits out, has had time, effort and humanity put into it. These people give a middle finger to anyone who creates, helping mega-corps kill the planet while they do it, and have the gall to consider the slop "art".
You're smoking some hard shit if you're coming into a leftist space defending the fascist project that is generative AI lmao
The problems you're describing have little to do with copyright
- Capitalists exploiting poor people and their work
- Capitalists exploiting the planet
Copyright is not the issue with GenAI as these problems exist regardless independently from any copyrights or AI shit, it's just a bad excuse and does nothing but defend a bad system
Yeah, exactly! That's what I'm trying to say in response to OP talking about "liberals" defending intellectual property, which I took to mean copyright in that case.
I feel like that's the point of the post as well. It's criticism of using copyright as the reason to bash on AI
I didn't really get this impression from the post since there was nothing negative about generative AI beyond the pro-copyright argument. Frankly, it seems closer to pro-AI to me. The OP's reply to the top-level comment doesn't help either.
Correct
You’re smoking some hard shit if you’re coming into a leftist space defending the fascist project that is generative AI lmao
And there it is, like any of the othe garbage liberal arguments it must contain fash jacketing or emotional attacks. What's really funny is that you feel this is your community and that leftist values must align with your own Pro-IP sentiment. Which is what this is:
We’re justifiably disgusted that people are pressing a button to create amalgamations of other people’s work.
I guess lots of people think dbzer0's stance on IP just means piracy and free stuff. But it also extends to making your own stuff from other people's stuff whether they like it or not. And that's the part that liberals such as yourself tend to struggle with, or even don't particularly like.
It's really funny that you think I'm the one out of place here when it is you who are spouting the same tired talking points, even outright fash-jacketing other users here because they don't agree with your, very liberal and not at all leftist-anarchist viewpoints.
I love a these angry anti-AI responses here, as if being vehemently against AI is the "default" or logical leftist position, and if you think otherwise, we you are not a real leftist.
AI is killing the planet and poisoning our internet dumbass. Being anti AI is the default. No real person likes AI. Do you also like shotacon too? Fucking pedophile.