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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

Good for them PSL

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

i'll vote for him in the primary but i'm going to entirely forget about it afterward because there's no chance a single great man comes along and flips the entire script all by himself.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

It's safe to assume that the PSL agrees with you.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's way too high of a standard to hold. there's a million smaller arbitrary things that are down to one guy, especially in the executive branch.

[–] godisidog@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I think the point is that this guy is obviously not gonna win anyway so there's no point in becoming too emotionally invested.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great Man Theory isn't just "when a guy does stuff" and I'm tired of seeing that inerpretation on hexbear

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you said great man theory, i did not

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah you just alluded to it. What is this kindergarten comeback you're attempting?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Got our boy Greg running for Senate in Ohio, too. Launch event this weekend was amazing.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

GREG GREG GREG GREG

We need to bring Gregposting to Hexbear

You can see the back of my head here:

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Due to the lack of bears, birds, and orcas in this picture, I can only conclude you're a bunch of liberals.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We're better than any of those things, we're Workers

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Communist Manifesto quote

This organization of the proletarians into a class, and, consequently into a political party, is continually being upset again by the competition between the workers themselves. But it ever rises up again, stronger, firmer, mightier. It compels legislative recognition of particular interests of the workers, by taking advantage of the divisions among the bourgeoisie itself. Thus, the ten-hours' bill in England was carried.

Altogether collisions between the classes of the old society further, in many ways, the course of development of the proletariat. The bourgeoisie finds itself involved in a constant battle. At first with the aristocracy; later on, with those portions of the bourgeoisie itself, whose interests have become antagonistic to the progress of industry; at all time with the bourgeoisie of foreign countries. In all these battles, it sees itself compelled to appeal to the proletariat, to ask for help, and thus, to drag it into the political arena. The bourgeoisie itself, therefore, supplies the proletariat with its own elements of political and general education, in other words, it furnishes the proletariat with weapons for fighting the bourgeoisie.

Further, as we have already seen, entire sections of the ruling class are, by the advance of industry, precipitated into the proletariat, or are at least threatened in their conditions of existence. These also supply the proletariat with fresh elements of enlightenment and progress.

Finally, in times when the class struggle nears the decisive hour, the progress of dissolution going on within the ruling class, in fact within the whole range of old society, assumes such a violent, glaring character, that a small section of the ruling class cuts itself adrift, and joins the revolutionary class, the class that holds the future in its hands. Just as, therefore, at an earlier period, a section of the nobility went over to the bourgeoisie, so now a portion of the bourgeoisie goes over to the proletariat, and in particular, a portion of the bourgeois ideologists, who have raised themselves to the level of comprehending theoretically the historical movement as a whole.

Of all the classes that stand face to face with the bourgeoisie today, the proletariat alone is a really revolutionary class. The other classes decay and finally disappear in the face of Modern Industry; the proletariat is its special and essential product.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

We need to bring Gregposting to Hexbear

Nobody here is cool enough to Gregpost tbh

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

You love to see it.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

liberals stay mad

[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Please don't...

Edit: probably wouldn't have made this comment if I had noticed I was on the electoralism comm. Forgot that comm even existed tbh. I'm pretty cynical about elections but also get this isn't the place to have that debate kitty-birthday-sad

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Run for governor of California.

Mamdani has already convinced me leftists running in elections in the US is pointless at this current time. Soaks up energy that could be better spent elsewhere.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

Running candidates is primarily a vehicle for propagandizing and building the party, not for actually winning. A PSL candidate (they run as Peace & Freedom Party in California) hasn't ever come close to winning.

I think it also helps the PFP maintain ballot access and build their registered voter rolls which might come in handy some day and is an important tool to have.

I think the CA PFP/PSL slate (Vote Socialist CA) is interesting primarily because of some of the lower offices that could potentially actually be won. The slate is also running candidates for State Superintendent of Education, Insurance Commissioner, and Controller, races that a lot of people don't pay attention to. Since CA has a non-partisan top two primary system, just getting second place in some of these smaller races gives them a good shot to win the general, as well as plenty of media coverage in the process.

And if any of these candidates were to win, they are all cadre members of the PSL and beholden to the party line.

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not really comparable though. This is a campaign running for an actual socialist party, Mamdani is a Democrat with a DSA endorsement. Maybe there's an argument to be made about the problems with socialists actually winning executive offices under a bourgeois democracy, but that's a separate issue.

What energy is it soaking up, and where could it be better used?

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Right. Anti-electoralists assume the energy spent on elections would go towards other types of organizing when in reality the people interested in elections doesn't overlap with people interested in other things.

I think of electoralism less as an either/or and more of a yes/and type of problem.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Comparing the DSA and the PSL is pretty silly. They are completely different orgs with completely different objectives

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Running for election is pointless if getting elected is your only path. The PSL uses big elections to drive party registration and push their messaging.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mamdani is a liberal though who ran on a cult of personality, not as part of a party

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how did the guy with zero name recognition at the beginning of the primaries run on a cult of personality?

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IDK man, how did AOC do it

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Policy. They both won and will keep winning because people like socialist (socdem) policies. You can call either or both of them ineffective at getting policy done, or be skeptical of their intentions, but the reason they won is that they have a policy platform that actually addresses peoples concerns and living conditions.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Whose policies are those? They're not the DSA's policies. They're not any party's policies. There's not any coherent movement's policies.

They're their own policies attributed to themselves that they can flake out on or reverse at a whim.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I, for one, like it when roads fall into the ocean