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[–] skip0110@lemmy.zip 119 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Why are utilities privatized?

Our energy provider increased our rates, then reported record breaking profits the next year. :(

(US)

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should be nonprofits, independent, but strictly non profit

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, let's privatize all the services you need to have a functional home. That way the companies can extract maximum value from the customers.

Brilliant.

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

better yet, let's put them on the stock market so they obligated to squeeze their "customers"

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

That's so typical.

Source: also US

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 month ago

That's why republicans hate it.

It sounds evil and simplistic, and it is, but these are evil and simplistic people we're talking about.

"Oh, new innovations in technology can help consumers pay less to power their homes? We can't have that! It would affect the profits of my friends Oil Baron and Coal Baron."

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Nah. They would be 50-60% cheaper if;

  1. They required the choice between two different administrators.
  2. They were ran as non profit (private equity is ruining utilities currently).
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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Solar is so cheap now, that some people can just build their own solar and battery setup themselves.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but at scale it is significantly cheaper to build larger and distribute it. It also means people don't have to over invest in their own set up just to cover their peak usage. There is also a large amount of up front capital required to build with usually years before you get back what was invested. Its also almost impossible for renters or apartment buildings to do it themselves.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes I know all of that, I'm saying that solar is so much cheaper than coal power that even private individuals can buy it, so we shouldn't be wasting money on new coal plants or gas plants.

[–] trongod_requiem0432@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Same for nuclear. U.S.-Americans are brainwashed on this topic.

First, they pay with their tax dollars for the subsidies that the private for-profit companies use to build the nuclear reactors. After that, they pay again, because the private company charges them extra on the electricity bill for the electricity generated by the very same nuclear reactor so that they can make even more profit.

It's so stupid and they're brainwashed to defend it to the teeth. They also always try to deflect from the fact that renewables are cheaper than nuclear and can be owned by them instead of a for-profit company, by pretending that everyone who opposes nuclear energy must be in favour of coal and gas. It's mind boggling to watch.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Would also be cheaper if the government owned the energy infrastructure and ran at cost.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ikr? What else is it? A good idea that would benefit people broadly instead of specific people narrowly?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You want elected officials to be competent and follow the will of those whom they represent?

that's woke nonsense

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Not really, I live in a country where green energy keeps going up but so does the electricity prices

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's called artificially inflated prices

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Of course it's artificial, but knowing that doesn't change the reality for the people who have to pay the bills.

Competition and choice lowers prices. Government "investment" usually raise prices.

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Yes but how would the fascists get kickbacks and bribes then? That's a big chunk of their income. Won't someone think of the oligarchy???

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Or the quicker way: the government nationalised all power companies, and sold electricity for cheap... Because it's necessary.... For society...

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Will they really though?

Have you looked at your power bill and seen how much of the bill is not power consumption?

We have also seen multiple times where the wholesale price of electricity is below zero yet consumers are still paying for power during those times.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's almost like utilities are a natural monopoly that do not fit within the economic ideology of "free market" capitalism.......

People seem to be forgetting that unless green power or nuclear power are socialized projects they would by default have to find a way to capitalize their products by some means. Whether it would be by capitalization via consumption rates, maintenance fees, or even subscription, a private business would have to be able to make ever increasing profits.

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[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Have you looked at your power bill and seen how much of the bill is not power consumption?

Not in US, but after our power went private it literally doubled. The nice lady tried to convince me the "extra" charges were always there but not itemized, but while holding the previous bill with the same (within a few points) my usage was the same but the "fees" were as much as my power usage

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[–] MashedHobbits@lemy.lol 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Government should be for the people not for the corporations

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

In many cities in America, private companies threaten cities demanding that they get paid to expand, or else they'll leave.

Comcast demanded they get city investments to expand wifi to more of the city and even promised free wifi to public places. And after millions of city dollars given, they said, "nevermind".

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[–] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Clearly this sub haven't seen this video from Technology Connections. It breaks it all down for you step by step why the statement is true.

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[–] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Where I live in Scotland about 73% of electricity generated come from renewables (mostly wind and hydro). I'm hugely in favour of this, but the bills keep rising.

I firmly believe the utility companies should be nationalised. I'm not against capitalism per se, but the current setup is a racket.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Water is essential to living.
Electricity is mostly essential.
Why these two utilities are privately owned is beyond me.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 19 points 1 month ago (8 children)

You can double check it but I think solar is cheaper now. I was shocked as well, I thought nuclear was the cheapest still.

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[–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Most expensive way of heating water

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cheaper utilities was never the goal

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

New data centers should have to pay on a sliding scale based on energy availability in the local grid. And if they want to build out generation it should be solar and wind only.

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[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Spain invested in green energy and I am paying a shit ton on utility bills.

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[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the end, green energy will win. It's already happening even though, right now, the black energy lovers are doing everything to pull the brakes on green energy. They will not be able to hold on to their power forever and many countries are already investing heavily in green energy. It's only a matter of time.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Technology Connections has a video on it...
But i doubt bills would go down; it's just that line would go up.

[–] Tharkys@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 month ago

I feel like the reason is obvious. Maybe it is just me.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Lots of US states have legislation that lets you choose your energy provider. People buy from the 100% green energy providers if they wish to pay more, not if they wish to save money.

Source: Several of my friends live in these states; they pay more to buy from 100% green energy providers.

[–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah because companies in the US exploit everything and everyone until they get stopped (which they don't)

And probably because fossil energy gets subsidised heavily to compete with renewable energy. So on your electricity bill the fossil is cheaper but your taxes are sent there ten times.

Well currently the US is fucked anyway

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the US, a big part of it is that natural gas is a waste product of oil fracking. If you want the oil, you will get a giant gob of natural gas to go with it. The stuff is really, really fucking cheap because of this.

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