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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by SVcross@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I mean, I see chats as one continuous conversation and unless the conversation has been properly ended, it shouldn't be necessary even if a night has passed.

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[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I see chats as one continuous conversation

Well there is your answer.

If you would view them as individual conversation then putting a greeting at the beginning of each makes perfect sense.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago

Most people consider conversations ended if neither party adds anything for a space of time.

A reasonable space of time is definitely overnight.

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago

If there’s been a pause of several hours, people consider it a new conversation. “Good morning” implies that the speaker assumes other participants have slept overnight.

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh I see, even if chats are organised by person, the conversation has ended (even if improperly) if X time has passed. So people organise mentally the conversations as individual interactions, it is the social component that overrides the digital organisation.

I think I get your point.

Thank you.

[-] notsorryforpartying@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

You sound like a robot pretending to be a human lol

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Sadly, I get that a lot. Even as a child. Now I'm approaching 40 and we'll, that never changed.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

It's okay, that grammar error put you back in the "human" camp. For now.

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Totally not intentional.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I was contemplating whether it is a robot or an alien.

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It’s also just a way to ping you and see if you’re there and ready to continue a conversation politely / small talk and a way to start talking again.

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

A heads up. Yeah, I can see why that could be necessary.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Reading a bit into "ended improperly", one possibility of them saying good morning could be if after they stopped talking late at night you still added 10 or so more messages in a row. Hehe. I used to get that alot. Basically both sincere and sarcastic at the same time. To let you know they are awake now and caught up on your continued posts after they fell asleep, as well as poke a bit of fun that you maybe missed a "too subtle for us" hint that the other person was going to sleep before you kept posting.

[-] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

That's a bold assumption!

[-] Squibbles@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

It lets the other person know you are up and available for chatting in case there was anything they want/need a quick response to.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

A lot of people literally wish you have a good morning. Those are saying this because they like you and hope all is going smooth for you.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago
[-] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

That's why instead of "good morning" I just send SYN

[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

wake up, time for some SYN 😈

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

It announces “I have returned to the chat, and am available for messages or have something I wish to tell you, and am checking for your availability”

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

But chat are asynchronous, availability is not important

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Whether or not a response is time-sensitive varies.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

If you're talking within the same day, I would consider it fine to continue talking.

...But if you're talking overnight or longer, I feel like you need a greeting of some kind to acknowledge that the time has passed. I wouldn't call it rude not to, but it's an extra pleasantry.

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

The time seems to be different according to the relationship.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

As others have said, I think that comes down to how people view online conversations.

I personally view them as an extension of in-person conversations, so a lot of the same mannerisms carry over for me.

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The same reason we do it face to face. We’re dead inside and have nothing to add.

[-] WytchStar@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

It's interesting how some things have changed over the years when it comes to chat rooms. And how other things haven't. When I first started in The Palace the internet was new, and chat rooms were for shut-ins, agoraphobes, and nerds. We basically lived on the internet. So it made sense to some to treat the room as a place you entered and left.

Now you can sit on a discord server on mobile and have a life, pop in the middle of a conversation somewhere and then leave it. And some servers still suggest you greet a room like you live there.

It's like, when I was a kid, having internet access to all human knowledge, anywhere, would have been a divine gift. Now we all have computers in our pockets and some people still argue about basic facts that can be resolved instantly. We treat technology very strangely.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's like, when I was a kid, having internet access to all human knowledge, anywhere, would have been a divine gift. Now we all have computers in our pockets and some people still argue about basic facts that can be resolved instantly. We treat technology very strangely.

That reminds me of a quote: Do you remember in the 90s when we thought the issue was lack of access to information? Nope, that wasn't it.

[-] SVcross@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's fascinating to see and understand the unwritten rules, and have them written. Sometimes a rule it's obvious to some, others like me, find them just weird.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Here's the thing, it is weird for today technology, because you never truly go away from the chatroom. But back in the IRC times joining a chatroom was very similar to entering a room, you would only see messages sending from then on, so if you wanted to keep track of a chat you were having after you left you needed to leave your computer connected and online, so it was impossible to know when someone was online and when they just had left the computer on to follow up on a thread that was happening when he went to sleep, so it was a common courtesy, just like saying hello when walking into a room. It was a way of telling people "I'am here now", but most chatrooms today have an away status you can set.

I agree it doesn't make sense on discord or whatever, which is why I don't do it there. But it might be one of those things that people just keep perpetuating because it's what they always did.

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Some people like saying good morning. Maybe the chat is just a handy channel to say good morning to you.

[-] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Most chat people live in the UGT timezone. ;) It's easier to say morning when joining a chat and evening when you leave then try to figure out the timezone of everybody. That was on IRC.

Most still use it in other chats, when joining the 1st time that day (usually after a night of sleep), you greet.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -5 points 11 months ago

To me someone saying good morning in a group chat is usually a bit of a fuck you to other members that aren't having a good morning.

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