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[–] Valarie@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I am probably gonna go with either graphene or a Linux phone next because of google doing their stupid shit as always

I may try and get a cheap phone to put some alt android ROMs on and test or maybe a Linux os but some of my favorite apps are android exclusive so I am probably gonna stick with a modded android system Either lineage, /e or graphene

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Buy one used to not financially support them. GrapheneOS only supports Pixel phones as they are the only ones which meet the security requirements.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I will always laugh at their "security requirements"

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

What is wrong with them?

[–] Tuxis@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

I'm looking into getting a Jolla, though I'm sure the security probably doesn't match up to GrapheneOS. They seem more privacy oriented and these days I'd like to contribute to the existence of European alternatives.

https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder

[–] dontblink@feddit.it 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Break free from Google by giving your money to Google!

[–] noname_no_worries@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

I bought my Pixel 9 refurbished (as new).

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Refurbished is a thing. So is 

Spoilerstealing

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 5 points 13 hours ago

Doesn't matter if it's at the beginning or end of the pipeline. It's feeding the demand.

I have a second hand Pixel for GrapheneOS to compromise without being compromised. Was degoogled with Lineage for many years, but it was becoming too much of a problem. I'm not happy owning literally a Google phone. Felt I had no choice.

Really, regulators are needed to sort this out. Consumer choice doesn't work with dualopy.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I understand the complexity of supporting different hardware, but i cannot take this thing seriously while it only runs on google pixel phones.

[–] parzival@lemmy.org 6 points 15 hours ago

A while ago they announced they were planning a collaboration with a big phone brand

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Nothing else meets the secuirty requirements and they don't want to comprimise.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[–] Kubiac@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Just use IodeOS, CalyxOS, /e/OS or just LineageOS to break free. Those are available for a many devices. Not only Pixel.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The level of security, of privacy and of granular control of those does not come even close to what GrapheneOS brings to the table. Additionally Iodè and /e/OS have some noise going on with not being private at all. And all of them, except LineageOS (some times) have long delays with security patches.

/e/OS uses OpenAI for voice-to-text. Iodé has closed source components (trust me bro?). What do they claim? "some protection is better than none". In security that is ridiculous.

Then there is choosing between Microg vs actual sandboxed Google Play Services (which you don't need to have at all on GrapheneOS if you don't want to).

/e/OS signs their OS with Google test keys instead of their own keys.

Unconfirmed, but concerning is the claims of ties of those 2 (Iodé and /e/OS) with the French government, not unlike Chinese companies with the CCP.

Choosing LineageOS, or even CalyxOS are options I would consider if I wasn't willing or able to get a Pixel device, but Iodé and /e/OS are absolute 'no' in my book. Too many holes, too pragmatic (and I'm trying to be nice using that word) for my taste.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

the security not close, but its already a big leap from stock rom, and most likely dont need to waste money on a pixel.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

yes, but you have to use a pixel.

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm using Graphene for around a 6 months now on a Pixel 9, with F-Droid being the primary app source. I quite like it.

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[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We need data portability laws to really untie people from these platforms.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago

And competition law enforced. Consumer choice doesn't work when it's a stitched up market like this.

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