This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
I declare all resources mine purchased with a fancy loan. Now that all resources are mine, they are all worth 100,000 times more then before. Dont worry, if you cant afford to pay 100,000x more you can rent some if my stuff! Also now that I own everything, I'm To Big To Fail and will need a bailout when I cant pay my fancy loan.
This is the healthiest, most efficient economy possible. Aliens visit earth and you want to know why? To study our highly advanced economic system of course!
Time to go back to CDs
3 months ago, watching ram prices skyrocketing, anticipating this exact scenario would happen, i bought 5 10tb drives.
best decision i've made in a while.
I'm afraid that a lot of the infrastructure will be heavily catered towards DoD computing resources. This means after the components hit their lifecycle, they aren't released to the used markets on ebay, instead they are shredded and rendered electronic waste.
All of those GPUs will be irrelevent in 24 months, and almost all of them are useless to consumers.
Its by design, its intentional.
They want you hooked to their cloud teat.
A lot of scientists, tinkerers, 3D renderers and such would love cheap A100s and up.
On the contrary, I don't think they will get cheaper. Somehow they'll get bought back and trashed (like Nvidia has done in the past), hoarded, tasked with busywork, something that that.
They wont let them leave because it'd be falling into "the competitions" hands.
They'll shred every single last bit of silicon.
Wait til all these projects crash, burn, and get liquidated. Gonna be an amazing secondary market for brand new, unused bulk hardware.
But you won't be able to afford it because the market crash means you lose your job.
I think people don't realise that if AI fails, it's pretty much guaranteed to collapse the US economy.
Don't you worry it's gonna have a global impact againjudt like it did in 08. Imagine losing your job in Italy for instance cause some bankers got ultra rich in the US. What a dumb fucking world.
Do it, do it, do it, do it!
I've lived though several "one in a live time" crashes.
Not really. They're not making consumer grade stuff, they're making hardware for data centers so unless you're planning on doing a DIY data center you're not buying the hardware. Hard drives are likely an exception.
You're more likely to see cheap VPS services than cheap secondhand hardware.
I'm so fucking over this bullshit.
I guess my combined 12TB across five drives ranging in age from 13 to six years old will have to suffice. The only reason I'd need to buy a new drive is if a couple of my current drives die. Which does happen on occasion, of course.
Also, fuck AI, and the assholes who made it, and everyone who currently, personally profits off it. This bubble popping will be the catalyst to take down the entire world economy. MMW.
Just in case: https://serverpartdeals.com/ Still the same sort of prices you expect, but decent warranties on re-certified enterprise HDDs.
Oddly, I've never had an HDD or SSD ever die on me. I've got old ass ones that aren't even a GB that I've torn apart and thrown away. My oldest SSD just got removed and put in a cabinet because 256gb is just too small.
Can't wait for the bubble to pop and the used SAS HDD market to overflow with cheap hardware. Same with RAM.
Same with RAM.
Unfortunately, the RAM shortage is caused by a RAM component being diverted to specialized packages that can't easily be converted into normal RAM. So even a bubble bursting won't bring RAM onto the market.
Theyyyyyyy are moving us towards clouuuuud computiiiiing...!
Getting a half dozen 24tb nas drives this morning was painful. They are twice the cost of last fall and most vendors, even big ones, only had one or two available. This is insanity.
I recently had a drive fail in my 4 bay nas. Amusingly, synology branded drives seem like they're pretty close to p ice parity with OE drives these days.
Bullshit. I call 100% bullshit.
Wdym? Do you believe the manufacturers would try to congincr you they're out of stock to create scarcity and increace prices?!? Do you jnow how silly that idea is?! \s
Sort of, there used to be way more HDD manufacturers and then they all talked each other into dropping them for SDDs. Now a sudden need arises and there are no HDDs.
Those datacenters are real. AI companies aren't using their money to build empty buildings. They're buying enormous amounts of computer hardware off the market to fill them.
https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2025/09/18/inside-the-worlds-most-powerful-ai-datacenter/
Today in Wisconsin we introduced Fairwater, our newest US AI datacenter, the largest and most sophisticated AI factory we’ve built yet. In addition to our Fairwater datacenter in Wisconsin, we also have multiple identical Fairwater datacenters under construction in other locations across the US.
These AI datacenters are significant capital projects, representing tens of billions of dollars of investments and hundreds of thousands of cutting-edge AI chips, and will seamlessly connect with our global Microsoft Cloud of over 400 datacenters in 70 regions around the world. Through innovation that can enable us to link these AI datacenters in a distributed network, we multiply the efficiency and compute in an exponential way to further democratize access to AI services globally.
An AI datacenter is a unique, purpose-built facility designed specifically for AI training as well as running large-scale artificial intelligence models and applications. Microsoft’s AI datacenters power OpenAI, Microsoft AI, our Copilot capabilities and many more leading AI workloads.
The new Fairwater AI datacenter in Wisconsin stands as a remarkable feat of engineering, covering 315 acres and housing three massive buildings with a combined 1.2 million square feet under roofs. Constructing this facility required 46.6 miles of deep foundation piles, 26.5 million pounds of structural steel, 120 miles of medium-voltage underground cable and 72.6 miles of mechanical piping.
Unlike typical cloud datacenters, which are optimized to run many smaller, independent workloads such as hosting websites, email or business applications, this datacenter is built to work as one massive AI supercomputer using a single flat networking interconnecting hundreds of thousands of the latest NVIDIA GPUs. In fact, it will deliver 10X the performance of the world’s fastest supercomputer today, enabling AI training and inference workloads at a level never before seen.
Hard drives haven't been impacted nearly much as memory, which is the real bottleneck, but when just one AI company, OpenAI, rolls up and buys 40% of global memory production capacity's output, it'd be extremely unlikely that we wouldn't see memory shortages for at least a while, since it takes years to build new production capacity. And then you have other AI companies who want memory. And purchases of memory from companies who are, as a one-off, extending their PC upgrade cycle, due to the current shortage who will also be competing for supply. If you have less supply relative to demand of a product, price goes up to the new point where the available amount of memory people are willing to buy at that new price point matches what's actually available. Everyone else gets priced out. And it won't be until either demand drops (which is what people talking about a 'bubble popping' are thinking might occur, if the AI-infrastructure-building effort stops sooner than expected), or enough new production capacity comes online to provide enough supply, that that'll change. Memory manufacturers are building new factories and expanding existing ones, and we've had articles about that. But it takes years to do that.
25% of the datacenters being constructed right now will go bankrupt.
The majority of this AI surge is for datacenters that neither have power nor water.
Its all gonna end up being shredded, if it exists at all.
They could garner good will by setting aside a % of their stock to sell to red-blooded people at a lower price..
If someone walks into a grocery store before a storm and wants to buy 10 pallets of water, the store tells them to fuck off.
That's 1 day. Guaranteed if someone walked in and said "I want to buy all the water you can sell for the next 9 months", they'd be singing a very different tune.
That's because they're guaranteed to sell all the water when there's a storm anyway. There's a reason there's laws against raising prices in an emergency.
I consider not having access to reasonably-priced hardware an emergency ;(
When Trump threatened tariffs I went ahead and bought 50 TB of storage. With my then expansion it would easily last me until the end of Trump's turn and maybe a decade if I rationed.
Turns out that was one of my best calls of judgements to date, just not for the reason I thought.
Free market totally regulating itself like we’ve always been told.
How can you doubt the Invisible Hand? Have you not seen how much it jerks?
I really hope this is a temporary supply bottleneck. I understand the constraints of producing chips and highly specialized hardware but AI demand is only going to go up from here.
I'm optimistic a game changer gets whipped out of thin air
It's not really going up....
I got bored with it last year, and have turned off everything but search summaries, as they often just put the answer right up front, no click throughs. Also I use a voice aid to set timers, reminders, and alarms....
And this seems to be a common story lately.
I can't see AI really exploding beyond basic uses like that. Some people are still inovating and playing with AI, but it'll settle down.
glad i kept all the ones pulled from previous ssd upgrades and ewaste that went through here. i have several i have yet to reuse.
the shit-tier shingled ones i got a couple years ago to store media files had been relatively stable for years on price at ~ 100-110usd. they're now 170+
Was looking at NVMEs, only $1500 for a small no name Gen 3 with 3gbps max transfer rate.
Some newer and faster name brand drives were listed as $400-500, but they were also out of stock, so those prices probably weren't accurate.
Yeah... but the slop!
I just have bouth 12TB WD off their site last month. Checked right now - Sales Inquiry instead of Add to cart. Rip...
