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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/43191242

Feb. 13, 2026

https://archive.ph/gBRoW

Free buses? Really? Of all the promises that Zohran Mamdani made during his New York City mayoral campaign, that one struck some skeptics as the most frivolous leftist fantasy. Unlike housing, groceries and child care, which weigh heavily on New Yorkers’ finances, a bus ride is just a few bucks. Is it really worth the huge effort to spare people that tiny outlay?

It is. Far beyond just saving riders money, free buses deliver a cascade of benefits, from easing traffic to promoting public safety. Just look at Boston; Chapel Hill, N.C.; Richmond, Va.; Kansas City, Mo.; and even New York itself, all of which have tried it to excellent effect. And it doesn’t have to be costly — in fact, it can come out just about even.

If free buses strike you as wasteful, you’re not alone. Plenty of the beneficiaries would be people who can afford to pay. Does it make sense to give them a freebie? Yes, if it improves the life of the city, just as free parks, libraries and public schools do. Don’t think of it as a giveaway to the undeserving. Think of it as a gift to all New Yorkers in every community. We deserve it.

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[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago

Don’t think of it as a giveaway to the undeserving

Imagine even thinking this about bus fares, when there's corporate welfare, subsidies, bailouts, and a tax code that heavily favours the wealthy.

[–] fortnitefinn@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm all for taxing the wealthy and using that money to fund public services.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Whatever city simulation game you use, it is usually better to make public transit free, and it pays on the long run. I wonder why...

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is it that people ride the bus?

I'll bet it's that people ride the bus.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My dad retired a few years ago, he spent basically his whole life driving to work and anywhere else he needed to go himself.

Where we live, senior citizens can get a pass so they don't have to pay bus or train fare.

So now he takes the bus everywhere, sometimes he basically just goes and rides it for fun, doesn't really even go anywhere in particular, just gets on a bus and rides around for a bit, gets off at some random stop, and waits around for a bus going back the way he came from.

Weird hobby, but I guess it beats collecting stamps.

So I think that makes a pretty compelling case. If you make it free, people will use it

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

This is a great hobby 😊

If he starts to show signs of dementia you need to show him how to share his location with you guys by default. This hobby sounds like it could make something stressful even more stressful if not prepared.

Thankfully, this hobby would help stave off dimentia if onsetting, as it is highly cognitive and forces an amount of exercise 🙂

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Locally, our transit system gets most of it's funding from a payroll tax on all the businesses in the Tri-County area (why it's called "Tri-Met", Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas counties.)

https://trimet.org/budget/pdf/2025-adopted-budget.pdf

$62.4 million from passenger revenue.
$540.4 million from payroll tax.

The payroll tax is 0.8237%.

https://trimet.org/taxinfo/

So...

0.8237/$540,400,000
x/$602,800,000

Solve for x...

0.8237 x 602,800,000 = 496,526,360
496,526,360 / 540,400,000 = 0.9188126573

So if we increased the payroll tax 0.0951126573, an amount absolutely nobody would notice, we could make our mass transit system here free.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You should also take into account that expenses are reduced because the need for payment infrastructure and processing disappears.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

While I am broadly speaking in favour of free transit, one thing that should be noted in any conversation about it is that it often does not significantly increase ridership by users who were previously not using transit - the increase mainly comes from increased utilization by prior users, and sometimes you can get negative effects such as the newly free transit trips displacing walking.

Hence, other investments into the transit system may be prudent - for example, expanding the system, increasing headways and so on.

We should try to be brave enough to do all of the above, but sometimes you're forced to choose one or the other.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Walking? Didn‘t know thats possible in the US!

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

My very limited experience says that it's possible but risky and unpleasant. NYC is probably a bit different, as is always the case in the U.S.

Walking works quite well in Sweden however