I've been pointing out the nazi parallels for years. People said I was hyperbolizing.
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You and me both buddy. It sucks seeing all this shit so plainly unfold, only to have what I thought was normal people not just ignore it, but get angry with me for trying to point it out.
They don't want to break out of their little bubble of toxic positivity where everything is fine and you just need to put your nose to the grind and work hard to get ahead and everything will be alright.
They think you're an asshole for telling them EVERYTHING'S NOT ALRIGHT, and things aren't going to be alright just because you ignore all the heinous stuff going on.
But they're like "nah, don't spoil my vibe."
This is the hardest part. I am trying to let go of my anger as they slowly start to notice and pretend like either no one could have seen this coming, or they were against it all along.
If one single person in my sphere ever just came to me and said “I guess you were right” that would do so much for my mental health. But I need to get past that, and just be happy they finally are coming around.
I am exceptionally bitter seeing some of my formerly maga associates, getting heaps of praise for waking up while the same assholes praising them, were the ones telling me I’m the crazy one. Clearly still have anger to let go of…
Your anger is justified
Honestly, your quick and clear reply is very cathartic. That’s why I prefer Lemmy to my family :).
I mean, yeah... You're not a prophet. It has been there in the background for many years. I don't think many of us realized it could become mainstream so quickly and with so little resistance. The problem now is that it's just subtle enough that for anyone not paying close attention and educated enough (sadly a large portion of the population) they can scoff and claim they're just being "patriotic."
how did America become the NAZI home front? all the other countries needs to put a massive embargo on the USA untill this administration is out of power.
Well, it all started with the greatest and most successful genocide of human history, during which time we became the monolith of chattel slavery. This is literally what inspired the holocaust. So we started being the nazi home front somewhere around 100+ or so years before the nazis ever existed.
where do you think Nazis got their inspiration?
Plus we've always been a little Nazi-curious
Madison Square Garden, 1939

Once the Conservative Propaganda Machine successfully demonized the Left as literally the worst thing in human history, EVERYTHING else became better. So Nazis, KKK, MAGA, dictatorships, etc. are all preferred to the horrors of The Left.
No! Not the right to healthcare!! Anything but that!!!
"Oh, you mean ¿death panels‽ Where a bunch of faceless, soulless bureaucrats decide whether you're worth saving or not? You know, completely unlike the wonders of profiteer healthcare!"
Europe is working on it. Notice how they're starting to adopt open source software and are working on their own credit card processor?
Right now, their governments and economies are too reliant on US-based tech companies that can be ordered to cut them off. So they're working on eliminating that reliance ahead of sanctions.
It just took a handful of connected conspiracists with no principles and some forward thinking about how to sow the worst seeds.
Names like Bannon, Epstein and others who funded them worked in the dark and with great amounts of support from a variety of institutions, worked to simultaneously make fascism cool and make average Americans too distracted to care. Eroded attention spans, people fighting online until nobody knows how to relate to each other anymore, dissolving communities and amplifying the most ridiculous or rage-baiting takes on both sides of ever issue.
That's all it took for people to stop caring as cartoonishly iconic fascists and nazis took power in the US, and the whole time we were thinking that cartoonishly stereotypical "bad guys" belong only in hollywood and can't possibly be real.
We all said that to some degree as the cartoonishly iconic and stereotypical villains rose in power and people were too burnt-out or distracted to give it any deeper thought.
worked to simultaneously make fascism cool
Y'know I cringe so hard now at that whole humorous "Muricah" stereotype. You know, gun-nut, God and Country, Reagan was so great, filthy commies blah blah blah. Always with a wry chuckle....it used to be a funny ironic schtick...Colbert parodied it really well.
...Except it's hitting hard and fast that it wasn't a schtick and no small percentage of people adopted it in all seriousness.
(Like how many people didn't understand the Space Marine fascism in 40k was supposed to be over the top parody.)
I've been screaming it for years because I was raised in the back-country by apocalypse preppers surrounded by ruraloid hicks preparing for the great coming race war/battle with China and the homosexuals.
Somehow media has been right all along with its stereotypes and we broadly kind of ignored the warnings, I guess because the message that movies and shows aren't real? Like a generation of parents telling kids whatever they see on TV or on the internet isn't real and can't harm us.
Well, it was all very real and it's all harming us.
Can't the Israel lobby handle this?
The zionists of the 1930s and 40s aligned themselves with the Nazis against the British. If somehow Israel came to be 20 years earlier they would have been an axis powers.
That's so freaking terrifying to think about.
But we're seeing it here too: People seeing their neighbors dragged away, and they will do any mental gymnastics necessary to separate themselves from the victims instead of defending or even standing with them.
https://mronline.org/2024/06/28/the-treachery-of-the-nazi-zionist-alliance/
This link is also for the currently two downvotes I got. I am not pulling things out of my ass. Zionists are just that evil. Read the article.
If I were a conspiracy theorist I would say they are signaling to the Nazis that if the 2028 election doesn't go their way the administration has their back at insurrection part two electric boogaloo.
"Nazis won't stop promoting nazi made propaganda; Nazis are loving it. "
Nazi government will not stop sharing Nazi propaganda. More on the 11 o'clock news
In a tiny bit of fairness. The US gov has always done a lot of things just like the nazi's. It's oh soo much worse right now, and they are not trying very hard (or at all) to hide it like the past. But some people are just now coming around to see how much the government manipulates the people rather than help them. So don't expect the next administration to "fix" these things.
I mean, we practiced a lot of fascist stuff for decades, usually with a liberal smile. Now it is mask off.
Examples please.
Decades of "liberalism" gave us the Taft-Hartley Act to crush labor movements, McCarthyism to criminalize dissent, and the systematic use of redlining to enforce economic exclusion. We've seen the carceral state explode and domestic policing militarize under the guise of "public safety," proving that the state’s velvet glove always hides an iron fist ready to strike whenever the working class actually organizes.
It's true. Much of the evil shit Trump does was done under liberalism where it was fairly popular. Christian Nationalists, Americans imperialists, bigots, and bloodthirsty capitalists were able to accomplish their goals within the system. They could get enough of what they wanted at the ballot box because their views had enough popularity to sustain it.
However, as neoliberalism eroded the middle class, as civil rights for minorities became more popular, as there was less support for war and supporting authoritarian allies, as people turned away from churches, the right knew there would come a day when they could no longer win through playing the liberal democratic game. They knew that if they waited long enough, left wing populism would usher in either a progressive era of labor reforms, or even more radical changes that would fundamentally threaten their power.
Under Trump, their goals are either to make their ideas popular, or take away any of the levers of control that regular people could use to stop them. The bigots and the Christians can use the billionaire media and newfound kingdom to enforce their dogma from the top down. Deport enough migrants, create enough anti trans laws, and suppress enough open discussions of sex through payment processors that much of it will become normalized. The billionaires can use those helpful idiots to take away the ballot box as an option and make the hollowed out husk of the government so broken and impotent that any liberal efforts to restrain them will be fruitless. Even the imperialists win because America's lost ground to China will galvanize future liberals into being more anti communist and cruel in promoting national self interest.
Liberalism may have died, but it's fully responsible for its own demise. It always had a fascist contingent that used the republicanism liberal ideology afforded to accomplish their own goals.
Can’t believe the Nazis won’t stop doing Nazi stuff. That’s so unlike them.
what could this mean 🤔
Did I time travel to 1939 Germany and not realize I understand German?
Does anyone really expect them to stop doing that?