Just make law forbidding people to work some days. Capatilatist will keep their shop open when they burn if they can get away with it.
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Also on something like blisteringly humid 40°C days, where you're only doing inside service but tables insist on eating outside
Like bro, I'm a person too
That comment also sucks when working holidays, particularly Thanksgiving. "They should let you be with your families!" Ok thanks, get out!
If that person wasn't there, you'd still be open though. From what I have seen of people going in during a holiday, they are all overworked with no time off and cannot get what they need beforehand, leading to them being essentially forced to.
Depends on the store. I worked at a big box hardware store and every public holiday you’d have old geezers just milling about wanting to strike up a 30 minute conversation with you about some esoteric project they’ve been working on for the last six months while you’re frantically mixing four different customer’s custom paint colours and trying to point other customers in the direction of things that have huge signs already directing customers to.
Not to mention that many places take volunteers to work holidays since not everyone celebrates. And it's not uncommon to get a bit more per hour from it.
Most of the time, it's the store being open that causes customers to come in. People expect places to be closed on holidays, so they check online. If the store's listing on Google Maps or whatever confirms it is indeed closed, most people will just say "oh dang, too bad". If it actually ends up being open then they go, buy their stuff, and then make a sympathetic comment to the employees.
The catch 22 is that the companies are opening on these days to catch the customers that come out. People go because the store is open, the store is open because people go. If people consistently, collectively didn't go in, the stores would close.
but what fraction of those people are those that wouldn't just go the day before or after closure instead?
The only gain the store is making is customers who need something that day and will go to another open store instead
Exactly...? If no one goes in, the store gains no benefit (only expending the cost of being open). But stores will open just on the off chance of customers coming in. And customers do go in, because the stores are open. Sometimes they go in and don't even buy anything.
If you want retail employees to be able to spend holidays with their families, don't go shopping on holidays. Make it unprofitable to be open.
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I agree and that's how i operate. However the counter argument to this is, if a store is open and no one shows up at all then next year they will not open because there was not a single sale. Not sure how acurate that is in terms of corporate BS but that is the general counter argument i hear.
Exactly.
"Stfu, I need my stat pay"
Yeah that's why, if I say anything, I just thank them for being there.
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I remember on 9/11/01 people coming into my job like that: "so crazy huh? Can't believe you guys are working. Anyway, let me get a half pound of potato salad."
I don't mind as long as it's said gratefully. Like they hoped for a miracle and you're it.
My first self realization moment was a black Thursday. I said pretty much the same, reflected on it later as most neurodivergents do. And haven't gone to a black Friday/Thursday since. One I didn't need the shit, two if I really want it then I can wait a day.
The entire economy can't just shut down because of some snow. Realisitically the most dangerous part about that weather is the driving, if we just built public transit, their commute wouldn't even be that different from a sunny day. If you dress for the weather you'll be fine.
Lol, you sound like you've never seen public transit in snowy conditions before. Unless you invest specifically in making that public transit resilient against snow and ice, it'll crumble as soon as it starts snowing. Here in the Netherlands, where we have good public transit but no good snow/ice resistance it all comes to a halt when it's snowing. Recently we've had a couple of days where basically the entire public transit system came to a halt. And not for extreme snow or blizzards, but for a relatively small layer of snow. It's simply not worth it to invest all that money just to drive on those rare snowy days apparently
But why can't the economy shut down for a few days?
In the past the economy had to shut down because of bad weather regularly, now we have all those machines and produce much more efficiently.
The economy is tired. It needs to shut down sometimes. :(
Have you hugged your economy today? ;_;
In the past they worked a 6 day work week. They'd only call it off due to weather if they had no infrastructure to handle the current weather.
We could institute not working and shutting things down anytime it snows, it also means your municipality will likely gut their snow clearing budget as they won't justify clearing the streets unless its going to be used for economic activity. They'll instead wait for the snow to stop and only run clearing operations then as it would take less passes with the plow compared to constantly clearing and salting/sanding.
That's one way of saying you haven't commuted by bus, train, or subway in your entire life, I guess.
Yeah, public transit is great for many reasons, but reliability in bad weather is not one of them.
Maybe you've just never got to use good, high quality public transit.
In Hong Kong, after a Category 5-equivalent typhoon hit, the metro system was back up again within two days with apologetic announcements that some trains were slightly delayed due to debris on the track.
It's a region dependant luxury. Where I live, transit has tons of tweakers and unstable people. Especially during winter. The city doesn't bother cleaning blood off the walls for weeks after a stabbing.
I'd love some proper investment into transit and security on said transit, but I'm not holding my breath
Probably not the best in the world, but I would consider my city's public transit network way above the average for what I know. It's lovely most of the time, just not at rush hours when millions of people have to be moved at the same time, and specially in bad weather. I'm not sure what your standard for high quality is but I'd bet that even the best one gets overwhelmed in these situations and it's an absolute hell to ride as well.
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Public transit suffers in bad weather just as much as car traffic.
Trains just end up moving slower, trees fall down on tracks. Busses are just big cars and need to drive on the same roads as the cars do.
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Tell that to the danish public transit system shitting itself because we're getting a bit of snow tonight. In reality, there's a better chance of you being able to drive your car to work, than the train being able to go. Because your car isn't bound by minimum speeds, but if the train can only go 10 mph because of snow and ice on the track, it's just not feasible to run it.
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"They make you work on a holiday?" says the reason they mame you work on a holiday.
It isn't like they can send you home. I know, I know, no raindrop feels responsible for the storm, but the people who give half a shit aren't nearly numerous enough to get companies to stop this, even if all of them stopped going.
Look it's just fun to go out in the snow 😅
in the winter, I push my errands out until there's enough snow to slide around in, if I have to drive
you're telling me that I get to go drift (reponsibly, of course), I get a basically empty store with nobody blocking the aisles or anything, the parking lot is wide open, and the checkouts have no lines? fucking sign me up
I really think the argument that "people who go into stores are the reason the store is open" is kind of dumb. The reason the store is open is because the owners want to make more money, and they think they can do that by staying open. I had to do the errand sooner or later anyways, it makes no difference to the amount of money I am spending at your store if I go in today or tomorrow. but it's more fun and convenient for me to go today. if you were closed because of the weather, I would be mildly disappointed, and then forget about it in 3 minutes because I'm having fun sliding around.
blaming the customer in this situation is like blaming the customer for your boss paying you below minimum wage.
I don't have much guilt over using a grocery store or gas station on a holiday. Retail or restaurants, on the other hand, I'll try to avoid. Not all businesses are equal in daily necessity.
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