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In the past I didn't really catch that the people were rebelling against the government and suddenly there is great violence against protestors.

I think I missed this completely. I am aware that the beginning was spiralling costs. Is this connected to international sanctions?

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[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, Bessent was just bragging about this in Davos. These aren't international sanctions, they're not approved by the UN. These are unilateral sanctions by the Burger Reich and their vassals used as a form of siege warfare against Iran.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/treasurys-bessent-says-iran-facing-precarious-moment-economy-trouble-2026-01-08/

[โ€“] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The UN doesn't have any particular claim to the word "international", except insofar as anything they do is international because the UN itself is international.

Other organisations, or even loosely affiliated groups of nations, can do international things because the word just means something like "between nations".

[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's pure nonsense. There is only one version of international law and the UN is the only globally recognized organization to enforce it. These other organization are just unilateral tools of specific countries representing their interests. And sanctions such as the ones the west does against their adversaries are unilateral actions by these states.

[โ€“] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i don't think they are arguing about international law, they are making an irrelevant and pedantic point about the meaning of the word international in general

[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago
[โ€“] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only enforcement there is is possible sanctions

And those are often only made by some of their members

UN is mostly there for all countries to have a place to talk

Its not the police

[โ€“] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

UN can absolutely impose sanctions, the actual problem is that the west is a bunch of rogue states that take unilateral action ignoring the UN.

[โ€“] Sickos@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Failing

how can we tell it's failing?

[โ€“] Sickos@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

News says ten trillion Iranian protestors have died. Don't need to propagandize that side that hard when you're winning?

[โ€“] Sickos@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Do need to lay the groundwork for "addressing the violence against their own people" for the ground invasion or air campaign.

[โ€“] mrdown@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Sanctions crippled the Iranian economy. Ordinary people initially took to the streets to protest these conditions. Later, rioters backed by Israel, by Israeli admission, joined in, escalating the situation toward civil conflict and attacking mosques even when people including kids are inside and police officers. The Iranian autocratic regime then used these events as justification to suppress all protests indiscriminately.

Violence occurred on both sides, and it difficult to find fully trustworthy sources on the situation

[โ€“] folaht@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

I don't know, but what I **can **tell you is that
I have noticed that there had been an awful lot of Iranian in European media in Europe flying pro-monarchy flags and by awful lot, I mean all protests in at least four Western countries outside of Iran, and that it's presented by EU media as normal or semi-normal when it should not be.
We live in the 21st century, not the middle ages or renaissance times.
Then, there's 'the Iranian flag replacement on X' by Elon Musk.
I guess he likes seeing the return of monarchies too.

[โ€“] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

US pulling color revolution shit again. There are legitimate grievances of the public but they are being steered by the west to topple the government for the purposes of western interests. Same shit with kidnapping Maduro. Look what just happened there, now the government is signing deals to privatize their oil.

[โ€“] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because Iran is the biggest threat to israel and the US interests in the middle east, so the claims are that the mossad are instigating, escalating, and inciting violence in the streets to topple the current regime in order to put a zionist puppet in the government, just like they have in all the arab countries, the latest example is the newly appointed Syrian president who was a wanted extremist terrorist by the same government that appointed him. Can you guess which government? This is just a brief explanation, you can do your further research.

[โ€“] mrdown@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Iran is a threat to the settler colonial power Israel but not to the USA

[โ€“] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

US interests (mainly oil) and all it's military bases in the area.

[โ€“] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

American elite interests only not the population and the military bases make the USA a threat to Iran not the opposite

[โ€“] ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Exactly, the people, all people, are victims of their governments and get microscopic crumbs from what they devour. And not just a threat to iran but the whole region.

[โ€“] lath@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's connected to many different things, but mainly it's drought. They really don't have water, very close to a country-ending disaster. All other stuff are putting pressure on their ability to gain water from outside sources. And without water, a lot of industries can't function, hence a spiralling free fall towards collapse.

Water is the new oil. Time to stock up!

[โ€“] Mihies@programming.dev -1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, but as soon as they discover something valuable, they will be democratized.

[โ€“] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://nitter.net/mikepompeo/status/2007180411638620659

It's so obviously and unashamedly driven by the empire, so why do you give the empire's news reporting any weight at all?