Which is why Elon is giving up on cars, and switching to robots, something else he'll fail at. It's his own damn fault, they should have admitted defeat and added Lidar years ago, when everyone else did.
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Tesla hasn’t stopped making cars, they’ve stopped making the Model S and Model X. Both were higher-end models that don’t sell well now that the 3 and Y are available.
Musk’s a ketamine-addled pedo fascist shithead. There’s enough bad about him without adding misinformation to the pile.
They haven't stopped, but their focus has pivoted away from their own cars. They don't seem interested in developing anything.
Tesla had lidar before, they decided to switch to vision-only control, presumably for hardware cost saving, but I read that this was musks decision ultimately, despite the pushback. The model s's that had the hw on board simply stopped using it after an update.
Oooooof... How can someone be so dense? That's just preposterous.
On the Lidar note, I wonder how much of a factor that is in Waymo being way safer. Those things are decked out.
Such a great idea removing lidar and radar from their cars, think of all the savings!!
6mph rear collision is hilariously bad.
My non-tesla GM vehicle sometimes panic brakes when I am leaving my garage at like 2-3mph because of how narrow the doorway is. This is obviously due to an abundance of caution + ultrasonics...ultrasonics Tesla doesn't have in lieu of pure vision with no redundancy.
There is no possible way Tesla ever achieves unmanned fully capable robo taxis that are safe with their current setup.
As a side note, Tesla does supervised driving. There is always a human operator on bord to prevent accidents - and they still had accidents every 55,000 miles. Tesla didn't publicly report how many times the human operator took action.
To me, this illustrates exactly why "human supervised" autonomous driving makes no sense. Nobody can sit there hour after hour, day after day doing nothing at all and still be ready to intervene in a moments notice. The whole point of autonomous driving is to take away the mental work of driving.
Also, when you're driving, you have perfect knowledge of your own intentions. If you don't know the intentions of the system, you're purely reacting to all of the information presented to you which is a small subset of all information the car sees. Is the car swerving because a kid ran in front when you weren't looking that way? No way to know in the moment whether a sudden input is life ending or life saving. The only reason supervised autonomous driving is considered acceptable by anybody is because the alternative is for car companies to take responsibility in the event of an accident. Politicians and car companies are happy for some flunky behind the wheel to take the heat.
Its trained on assholes, of course itl crash more.