The CEO of Ford has this exact car to get a feel for the Chinese competition, as he puts it, and he loves it
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They're also only like $25-30k (still pricey, but a new Subaru is like $28k now, so it's not bad for a commuter)
The few times I've ridden in a Tesla I've gotten car sickness and thrown up.
I accept it as God's punishment
Do Chinese EVs make you hurl your lunch every time you sit in the passenger seat?
This is a common response to EVs in general because the power is instant, so it feels like you're being jerked forward and back. Not sure if that was the problem for you.
Yeah, I was looking into it, and like @FloridaBoi@hexbear.net said it is mostly the driver driving an EV as if it were a regular gas car. Which is a mistake I would make too if I were driving one. They have regenerative breaking and that instant response that you mentioned. That in addition to cues we are used to in automobiles (sounds, vibrations, etc) being absent in most EVs causes motion sickness.
At least that's what I tiktok told me..
I've never had a pleasant experience in one, I've always gotten sick.
My wife has an EV and I've driven and ridden in it just fine. But I once took a Lyft in one and the driver was driving it like a gas vehicle (lifting fully off the throttle and applying brakes), and I was pretty queasy by the end.
EVs usually have two modes, one that lets you mostly drive with one pedal, and one that drives like a gas car. Sounds like your driver was using the wrong mode.
Personally I like the gas-car mode because I don't want to misjudge the effectiveness of the regen braking and hit something because of it, since the brake pedal becomes something of a special case rather than just the ordinary way to stop.
That might be a driver issue more than anything
Would be interesting to see how this goes with my rule: If you’ve ever made a cell phone or a TV I won’t buy your appliance. Might extend to cars now too.
Samsung dishwasher be like "your dishes are dry now"
(dishes are not dry)
It's trash. Xiaomi makes good phones and that's it. I made the very foolish decision to get locked into the Xiaomi ecosystem and everything else they make is trash. My fitness band broke twice, my scale stopped synchronizing with their fitness app, and recently my phone updated itself after I deliberately disabled auto updates. Now I have a "security" app that demands I turn on scanning and claims an app I don't have installed is a security threat. Naturally, it us uninstallable. I also got an "in car" app I can't get rid of though I don't have a car. After that stunt my next phone won't be Xiaomi either.
Xiaomi tech is pretty solid for the price imo, dunno if I’d trust their car but I’ve had a lot of their kitchen appliances and smart home stuff last me years.
I've had an 11T for like 4 years now. It's got some quirks, but still works great
All of mine either stop working, get a software update that removes features o get a software update that starts displaying ads for things I ALREADY PAID FOR.
Now I have a "security" app that demands I turn on scanning
Is the OS Android based? This might actually be Google's fault, because this year (if not rolling out already) they are trying to move Android toward becoming a walled garden by seriously complicating third-party APK installation. Supposedly there will be like a 12 step annoying process that we will have to go through to install stuff with F-Droid for example
Xiaomi has their own version of Android called MIUI that is hacked to look just like Apple. It's getting further away from stock Android, whatever that is.
After that stunt my next phone won't be Xiaomi either.
What type of phone would you recommend?
Best phone I ever used was a Google pixel. I'm not a Google fan (for obvious privacy-violating reasons), but they make gosh darn good phones (well, I don't know about post pixel 8, since that one is still serving me well). Especially considering you can install GrapheneOS!
A few other brands I've tried:
- Samsung, horrible android implementation
- Nokia, unfortunately very underpowered and didn't last long
- Samsung again (this time a S line), even worse android implementation and weird, over-saturated camera
- Apple, iOS is unusable IMHO and the phone slowed down way too quickly
- Fairphone (older model, apparently they've gotten better), much too underpowered and thus didn't last long with newer android versions
Pixels suck as actual telephones. I have had several and my friends are like, "I called you and you never called back!" No ring, no notification. Missed or undelivered messages.
If everyone was on WhatsApp I'm sure it'd be great but the carrier services suck ass like I've never experienced with another phone.
Have you had that experience? Maybe I just have shit luck
Ironically, the Pixels are the only devices officially supported by GrapheneOS at this time. If you ever get sick of google enshittification this is definitely something to look into
This happens to my wife where she’ll get a voicemail a month late. Idk if it is a phone problem or a network problem
I do feel like I have also had that experience, but I suspect it's because I nearly always have my phone on silent and otherwise use Signal. But notifications do arrive inconsistently late! I wonder if that is connected to battery saver or something. Definitely a worthy criticism, though; thanks for bringing it up.
Huawei on the basis it’s pretty much an employee owned collective
I have no fucking idea. Huawei sucks even worse, it's for domestic only. Someone I know has a Huawei tablet and despite an hour of work, installing other app stores, developer mode, installing APKs the thing still would NOT play mp3s.
It wants you to subscribe to its music service.
I hate Apple so Samsung maybe?
One of those weird freedom linux phones but they probably suck, too. I want my 2015 Xiaomi Note 2 back. I still have it, and it's perfect. Modern apps won't install and it's slow as fuck.
At this point I have accepted the fact that all smartphones suck ass, and we will never have good ones under capitalism
Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best security focused phone you can have. Works very well and is easy to install, you can buy a used pixel if you don't want to support Google.
it's for domestic only
Huawei works fine in the USA on the hot pink carrier you just won't have the google play store
Well yeah, that's where you get any good software. I tried the alternative ones like F-droid and they SUCK. The Huawei app store is the one that doesn't have a single music player that supports MP3s. This is by design, they nag you to pay a subscription fee to their shitty censored music service.
you can probably install an android mp3 player via EasyAbroad or DroiTong
some succulent chinese deals would hit the spot right now tbh
Are there "budget" Chinese EVs with none of the touch screen, apps, special bells and whistles? I.e. just one with an on button, a few driving modes, and buttons to control the audio and ac?
Tons of them. Most of the EVs are sold in China, and most of them are obviously not the top end models. Unfortunately they may not necessarily be available in countries outside of China. Manufacturers like to export their top of the line models first in order to create a good impression of their brand. Also because the profit margins are higher on those models. But this might also depend on if you are in a richer vs a poorer country. Companies may not export the expensive models to countries where they know they won't sell.
So while in China you have all the possible options available from the very cheapest to the most expensive, in western Europe you may only have the most expensive ones, whereas in many global south countries you may only find the budget models.
There are so many, you can get a good overview of them just by taking rideshare in China. The intense rideshare competition between drivers means that you're pretty much guaranteed to get an EV just because they're cheaper to run. Roewe is the most common brand for this in my experience, but there's significant variety especially by region.
Yeah, I figured they exist but the tech reporters are obviously interested in the high end shit.
Doubt they will ever come to America though. I'm sticking with my old ass Japanese car as long as I can
Yes, but they're not so often exported. The base models of the Wuling Hongguang are like 4-5k€ in Chinese prices and aren't smart cars at all
¥299,900 and up
Oof, I thought it was closer to $30k
The Standard starts at ¥215,900 but the screenshot specified the Max.