I feel you brother, specially if you have missmatched displays, if you mention it, it's staright up your fault somehow.
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The linux user community is its own worst fucking enemy
It's not TOO bad around here, but when I was on a Linux binge on Youtube, some people in the comments there genuinely just don't want other people to move to Linux. That's not my words, it's theirs. They flat out don't want new Linux users or for Linux to grow... but they use it.
But sir, I am not fucking a donkey, I am typing text with keyboard!
edit: meant to be a language pun, nothing more
Look, you're harming our effort to convince people that there are no bugs in Tux-Sing-Se. How are we gonna get people to switch unless we pretend that all is perfect and flawless? Because clearly, that's what Windows users expect...
(sarcasm)
Of course there are no bugs in Tux-Sing-Se. When i moved there, I had an absolute bug free experience and only needed one small hour to get my Bluetooth headphones working!
On Mint and some screen issues as well
Mint is still on X11, pretty much all other distos switched over to Wayland by now, which works much better with multi-monitor setups.
There's a subforum in the mint forums about this, and this is the reason why I don't recommend mint for newbies anymore.
Out of curiosity, what do you recommend instead?
Screens are for Windows n00bs.
Hell yea, pros use braille
If you need feedback on your inputs, it just means your inputs are too imprecise.
I type in morse code and receive the output in braille
I can't get the monitor to stay off. Something keeps getting it to turn back on, which is annoying because I have 3 devices plugged into it. So instead of me coming back to another device and both monitors turn on and to that device, this monitor is just always showing the one device and i have to switch the input.
Weird π
Yeah, I tried to look into it and never figured it out. Just for clarity as I reread my comment, by on/off I mean the monitor going to "sleep".
Ooh, makes more sense
I have a friend who runs arch, and recommends arch to people. His computer constantly has problems because he doesn't fully know what he's doing.Β
I respect doing it for yourself, you do you, but I feel like he's actively discouraging my friends from giving Linux a go because of his constant issues. Recommending the hardest distro to beginners just bugs me.
I run arch on a thinkpad just so I could learn it, and it will pretty much always break the wifi and whatnot if i update, so I just haven't updated it.
Sounds like the average Arch user to me
Funny meme btw lolololo
β¦ why are you like that?
This is Me. I had more problems on Bazzite and Debian, so I prefer Arch. It still breaks all the time and I still don't know what I'm doing, but at least sometimes it works.
That's actually really surprising to me, bazzite is fairly plug and play, and Debian while slow to update is still very stable. What kind of issues were you running into?
Try OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
It's practically Arch minus elitist culture minus breaking all the time minus having to manually manage anything and everything. Also, it has properly set snapshots by default, so almost any screw-up can be reversed.
I'm running arch now for gaming.
I never had any issues* which makes me worry, cause i truly dont know what the fuck am I doing. Jesus take the wheel...
*im surfing on issues actually
Yeah, let everyone do their own thing - there's nothing wrong with starting with Slackware if you want to. But if we're going to recommend a starting point to people, maybe go with something that is designed to work out of the box. There's going to be so much else to get adjusted to that extra options aren't necessary.
Oh, and by the way, most people don't like tinkering. They want their car to take them from A to B and their computer to do the thing, it's not a hobby for them and we shouldn't expect new users to be looking for a new hobby.
I run slack, alpine, freebsd, deb and mint for the gui testing on various servers personally and professionally.
I recommend kubuntu.
Thank you
I have a recommendation for your recommendations. There's KDE Neon which is distributed by the KDE project, which is Ubuntu-based. That's what I personally run, now that I really don't have the time/energy to tinker.
we shouldnβt expect new users to be looking for a new hobby.
Infinitely this!
Yes, it's super cool to have control over your own damned machine but for some, the computer is just the thing the lets them work, porn and game.
Hmm, when a car has problems, you go to someone who fixes that for you. People under 60 usually don't do that for PCs.
I don't recommend Arch to newbies, but I do prefer it because it's more robust: other distros patch stuff to make it easier, but those patches mean things are farther from the tested upstream version. Arch doesn't do that as much so I run into fewer bugs.
But this view might be outdated. I just remember that before 2017 (when I installed my current Arch system) I constantly had problems with dist-upgrades in Ubuntu
No you're probably right, I've had my Ubuntu-based distro act up after upgrades, and I actually find it more random now than what it used to be like in the 2010s. My feeling is that Debian/Arch are better in this regard, and most newbies don't actually need bleeding-edge patches.
OK, you explained it well to me with the car example. I am not a car person, all I know about them is they can usually move, but I am not really interested to learn more.
Fucking Donkey describes recommending Arch to noobs. It's astounding.
As a ~25 year Linux user, I am absolutely a gorgeous donkey
Just want to say Gordon Ramsay's a cunt and a baby boy that never grew up.
Marco Pierre White, is that you!?
Your meme about displays got me to go fix the 4k60 output on my PC. I use a TV as my screen and the EDID it reports us borked and leaves it off so I had to make a custom EDID and inject it at boot.
10/10 way easier than it sounds, annoyed I had to use a popular windows program to do it though because the first copy I found of the app I needed had a Trojan (thanks VirusTotal for confirming I'm not crazy for checking every exe no matter how official looking).
Why tf do we not have an EDID editor?
I've found the Linux community to be quite helpful. But I've not really used Lemmy for tech support. The Arch Wiki is damn near a Linux Wikipedia. And any active board dedicated to a particular Distro are where I've gotten help.
It seems really hard at first but the more problems you solve the more sense everything makes.
Ignore the gatekeepers.
I once asked on one of the Linux gaming communities on here for tips on how to optimise my Sunshine on my system because it wasn't streaming well at all
Got a bunch of shit from several people because I didn't formulate my post like a proper support ticket.
Haven't asked for help on here since.
The collective Arch username has already encountered every single possible problem so of course their wiki is excellent