How insane to you need to be to think the ancient Greeks didn't know about Africa? literally all of art history comes down the the Egyptians and Greeks teaching, learning, and reteaching each other art skills over the course of centuries.
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Black people were invented by Woke Hollywood in the year 2019 AD in order to ruin movies.
I havenβt watched the movie, but I would imagine Africans is pretty common around Greece?
Someone certainly didn't do all that well at their history lessons. If Memnon led an ARMY from Aethiopia to the siege of Troy there might've just been ..say, a few people of different fucking complexions mucking about in the immediate aftermath of said siege.
Not to mention all the trade going on for centuries in those parts.
..and also, yeah, a Cyclops is just fine because it happens to be the right color, right?
But this is otherwise a complete dealbreaker, is it? What the fuck? (I mean, I know it's just a racist piece of shit spewing idiocy, but still, what the everliving fuck?)
My immersion of Ghost of Tsushima was ruined when I saw female lords being treated as equals to male lords.
I thought, "were they really equals back in Feudal Japan? This ruins my immersion."
Then our brave, rugged, honorable lead Samurai who we respect, jumps on to his knees and prostrates himself at every opportunity in front of his uncle/lord, saying unironically how unworthy he is to exist in the presence of such a divine being...
...and I was like, "oh yeah. In those moments where he is actually true to his period, I lose all respect for him."
Fair play game, fair play.
Americans are so weirdly racist. Both Europe and Africa are along the Mediterranean. From the southern most point in Greece to the North most point of Africa is less than 400km. The whole region of North Africa and Southern Europe is an ethnic melting pot dating back 1000s of years.
But regardless of that, it's Mythology - not a documentary. I'm not looking to be "immersed" in American racism. I have zero issues with the cast representing the world I live in now, because it was made in the world I live in now, and features the people I live with now.
Americans are so weirdly racist.
As are Europeans. Look at the Danes for example and thier protect our couture immigration polices, whites only under another name. Germans just now having another nazi moment, Italy and the fall and current rise of Mussolini like politics. Then lets not talk of Poland and Hungary etal
Don't tell the Americans that Romans were Latin, they'll invent a time machine to bring ICE to ancient rome
It would be funny as fuck watching ice getting eaten by lions and bears in the arena.
Apparently the justification is "North Africans look white."
These people geniuenly think melanin is binary and the blackest person from Tunis still looks Irish-American.
It is widely known that black people did not exist back in ancient greece, duh
Don't tell that to checks notes.... Americans
Yes, and because, as everybody knows, black people didn't exist until modern times. π
They were officially invented in 1612 when the politically correct baron Du le penii of asswipe got high and said white girls have no ass, so he invented black people!
This is a joke but honestly not that far off
Interesting, sad, and no surprise. From the linked article:
"Role in the History of Racist Ideas
In the 21st century, the work of Zurara has been re-examined for its foundational role in the development of modern racist ideology. Historian Ibram X. Kendi, in his 2016 book Stamped from the Beginning, argues that Zurara was the world's first racist because his chronicle was the first to articulate a comprehensive defense of the African slave trade based on the concept of Black inferiority.[12] Kendi posits that Zurara's writing was not the cause of the Portuguese slave trade but rather a product of it; Prince Henry's economic and political self-interest in the trade of enslaved Africans came first. Zurara was then tasked with creating a narrative to justify these policies.[13] According to this view, Zurara's chronicle established a powerful and enduring justification for racism by portraying enslaved Africans as savages who were being civilized and saved through their enslavement, thereby creating racist ideas to rationalize pre-existing racist policies.[14]"
Uh yeah, a white giant cyclops, duh
What language were the actors speaking in?
Would the cyclops explain Laertes being played by an actor who is Maori?
This bigot is stupid because Africa is right fucking there. But audiences at large might ask 'what the fuck?' if anyone in ancient proto-Greece was plainly Native American. And that mass response almost cannot be wrong. Anything that takes everyone out of the story is a failure of storytelling. Working around that is not difficult: do it early. That's how you make people go 'holy shit, a cyclops!' instead of 'why the fuck does this movie have a cyclops?'
Suspension of disbelief is not something the audience owes. It's a trust that the story will follow its own rules. Every story has rules, and the ones it does not provide are filled in with ones you already know. That includes rules from other stories: nobody in Harry Potter bothers explaining that brooms can fly. But that made-up element is not carte blanche for someone to wield a lightsaber. The rules you know for fantasy would excuse a surprise dragon, but not a surprise spaceship. Nor could an eleven-year-old boy from jolly old England whip out a handgun, without breaking immersion, even though handguns are real. A story where that kind of character can have that kind of object takes an entirely different shape.
It is important to avoid bad arguments even when dunking on the dumbest motherfuckers alive. We don't need to undermine the concept of criticizing fiction, just to tell a crybully racist to fuck off.
What about all the Gauls/Celts they cast as Greeks? Complete immersion break. :P
Don't they know the ancient Greeks didn't have film technology! How can I watch this?
He means the immersion of his nazi fantasy land. The one where he is superior and only good white people exist. No jews, no other ethnic group other than Germanic, Nordic, Slavic or - dare I say - Saxon, Anglo even. Anything that breaks this delusion sends him off into a spiral of rage.
Then he posts about it online.
None off which are particularly Hellenic
Africans in the Mediterranean is only immersion-breaking if you're the kind of stupid cunt that cares about shit like this
There's no sight of Michael Caine in the credits. This breaks immersion for me: I can't believe it's a real Nolan movie without Michael Caine. Every Nolan movie needs to have him or Cillian Murphy at the very least, ideally both.
Whatβs most immersion breaking is that they put pants on the Greek soldiers.
Whatβs that big olβ thing lying there on the Mediterranean? Oh, its Africa.