Whatβs that big olβ thing lying there on the Mediterranean? Oh, its Africa.
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Whatβs most immersion breaking is that they put pants on the Greek soldiers.
And the Viking ship
Pants on a Viking ship...?
I'd kinda like to see that.
Pretty sure nobody wore pants in ancient greece. The real greeks still don't wear pants.
~~Homer's Iliad~~ The Epic Cycle that Homer's Iliad is part of literally has an Aethiopian (Sudanese) army in it. It is also a plot point early in the Odyssey that Athena manages to get Zeus to let Odysseus actually go on the fucking odyssey because Poseidon is away in Aethiopia and therefore can't object
Edit: misremembered which poem Memnon was in. The Iliad does contain references to Aethiopia, but Memnon and his army star in a different part of the Trojan War story
I'm not commenting on the black people, but it's honestly always such a bullshit take to say that something like lack of consistency in a movie cannot be ruined because it has supernatural elements. Like the actor complaining that people asked him why he didn't lose weight after walking for months, and he points to the dragons. Yes! There are dragons! They are part of Game of Thrones! A guy should still lose weight if he walks for months on a sparse diet! (Also not commenting on having immersion ruined because overweight dude remains overweight, only on the argument)
Americans are so weirdly racist. Both Europe and Africa are along the Mediterranean. From the southern most point in Greece to the North most point of Africa is less than 400km. The whole region of North Africa and Southern Europe is an ethnic melting pot dating back 1000s of years.
But regardless of that, it's Mythology - not a documentary. I'm not looking to be "immersed" in American racism. I have zero issues with the cast representing the world I live in now, because it was made in the world I live in now, and features the people I live with now.
Apparently the justification is "North Africans look white."
These people geniuenly think melanin is binary and the blackest person from Tunis still looks Irish-American.
What about all the Gauls/Celts they cast as Greeks? Complete immersion break. :P
Don't they know the ancient Greeks didn't have film technology! How can I watch this?
Yes, and because, as everybody knows, black people didn't exist until modern times. π
Do they even know what continent happens to be located on the Southern side of the Mediterranean?
There's no sight of Michael Caine in the credits. This breaks immersion for me: I can't believe it's a real Nolan movie without Michael Caine. Every Nolan movie needs to have him or Cillian Murphy at the very least, ideally both.
Black people were invented by Woke Hollywood in the year 2019 AD in order to ruin movies.
Africans in the Mediterranean is only immersion-breaking if you're the kind of stupid cunt that cares about shit like this
How insane to you need to be to think the ancient Greeks didn't know about Africa? literally all of art history comes down the the Egyptians and Greeks teaching, learning, and reteaching each other art skills over the course of centuries.
I havenβt watched the movie, but I would imagine Africans is pretty common around Greece?
Uh yeah, a white giant cyclops, duh
It is widely known that black people did not exist back in ancient greece, duh
My immersion of Ghost of Tsushima was ruined when I saw female lords being treated as equals to male lords.
I thought, "were they really equals back in Feudal Japan? This ruins my immersion."
Then our brave, rugged, honorable lead Samurai who we respect, jumps on to his knees and prostrates himself at every opportunity in front of his uncle/lord, saying unironically how unworthy he is to exist in the presence of such a divine being...
...and I was like, "oh yeah. In those moments where he is actually true to his period, I lose all respect for him."
Fair play game, fair play.
Someone certainly didn't do all that well at their history lessons. If Memnon led an ARMY from Aethiopia to the siege of Troy there might've just been ..say, a few people of different fucking complexions mucking about in the immediate aftermath of said siege.
Not to mention all the trade going on for centuries in those parts.
..and also, yeah, a Cyclops is just fine because it happens to be the right color, right?
But this is otherwise a complete dealbreaker, is it? What the fuck? (I mean, I know it's just a racist piece of shit spewing idiocy, but still, what the everliving fuck?)
I'm a huge fan of the musical based on The Odyssey. . There are so many animatics and animations made by fans. Notable examples (personal favorites) are Wouldn't You Like animated by Slander, A short part of an earlier song mixed with a near end song by Slander as well, and my personal two favorite animations done by Mr. Gameron (the songs were combined by another, apparently with the blessings of the original creator, as referenced in the comments). The entire thing is a great watch/listen, however.
um, the Lotus Eaters


