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Ex-Tory Home Secretary Braverman defects to Reform UK (www.bbc.co.uk)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by MonsterMonster@lemmy.world to c/unitedkingdom@feddit.uk

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Former Home Secretary Suella Braverman has become the latest Conservative MP to defect to Reform UK.

She becomes the third sitting Tory MP to join Nigel Farage's party in the last eleven days, and takes Reform's tally of MPs to eight.

Unveiled at a rally in London, Braverman told Reform supporters she had also resigned her Tory membership of 30 years, adding: "I feel like I've come home."

Her defection comes hot on the heels of Robert Jenrick and Andrew Rosindell, who also left the Conservatives earlier this month.

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[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Trash moved from trash bin to dumpster fire.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

In other news: rabid dog bites gurning man.

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Horrible person joins other horrible people in party with horrible policies.

I think they’re building up to the big one. It’ll be Truss next.

[–] meejle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are even Reform voters dumb enough to see that happen and think it's a good thing? I mean, surely taking the piss out of Lettuce Liz is just about the only thing everyone in this country can agree on?

[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Fair point.

Maybe not Liz then. Maybe Priti Patel.

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How can reform continue to call themselves the "plucky up starts from outside the establishment when they're entirely peopled by the establishment?

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago

When "drain the swamp" starts to sound more and more ridiculous

[–] WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We drain the swamp and now we keep what we drained.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

How can they even call themselves Reform when they're full of people responsible for the current form.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reform UK Re-use the worst Tories and Recycle Putin's policies

[+] makingrain@lemmy.world -11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'll bite. I'm excited for your response.

Which Reform policy is a Putin policy?

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So many to choose from! How about building more gas turbine power stations (thereby increasing demand for gas, pushing the global price up and benefitting Gazprom even if they don't buy directly from them), cutting stamp duty on the biggest properties (including most of those bought by Russian oligarchs) and pulling out of the European Defence Fund? All straight from the last Reform manifesto and I'd bet Putin would be in favour of those, wouldn't you?

If you don't like those, there's stuff like cancelling our human rights, repealing the Equalities Act and "scrapping" the BBC.

I suspect Reform would also open the floodgates to more Russian government funding, Nathan Gill style and otherwise, but they're not daft enough to put that in their manifesto.

Maybe you could say which Reform policies would Putin oppose? There's some he probably wouldn't care about either way, but oppose?

[+] makingrain@lemmy.world -10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

So many to choose from!

Proceeds to list zero policies 😀

We're using gas for the next 50 years whether it's Reform or the Greens. That curries more favour with the US or Qatar than it does Russia. You're reaching for that to be a "Putin policy"

Scrapping the licence fee.. that 1/2 of the population who should pay, don't.

Thanks for responding at least.

What would Putin oppose? Let's see.. the top three from Reform's site:

stopping the boats (I know, I know)
defend our borders
deport illegal migrants

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Proceeds to list zero policies 😀

I listed three. You might like to pretend they're not policies or something, but Reform put them in their manifesto.

We’re using gas for the next 50 years whether it’s Reform or the Greens. That curries more favour with the US or Qatar than it does Russia. You’re reaching for that to be a “Putin policy”

Really? Are you seriously claiming that Putin doesn't want the UK buying gas for longer? As that's the difference between Reform and the others: Reform would build more new gas power stations, prolonging the dependency mistake, while most of the other parties will phase it out more or less quickly.

Scrapping the licence fee…

Not only, but also scrapping the BBC because they believe on-demand TV has replaced it. That's what they wrote.

And I notice you don't disagree that Putin would want the UK out of the European Defence Fund.

What would Putin oppose? Let’s see… the top three from Reform’s site:

stopping the boats (I know, I know)

defend our borders

deport illegal migrants

Don't make me laugh! Why would Putin oppose those? Putin would love all of them, along with anything else that makes the UK more isolated and causes squabbles with its neighbours or diverts funds from NATO-level defence to petty little border patrols. That's why he's paid Reform politicians like Nathan Gill so much.

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Which three? Which three are Putin policies? I'm not addressing the rest of your response until you name which three Reform policies are Putin policies which got us to where we are.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Russia was the biggest gas exporter until the 2022 sanctions. It is still heavily dependent on black and grey market exports.

At the time of this comment, gas makes up 22% of tonight’s supply to the National Grid, with wind at 52% and Biomass/Nuclear at 17%. Gas will not last another 50 years at all.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their leader is a Putin man.

https://www.facebook.com/ledbydonkeys/videos/we-need-to-talk-about-nigel-farage-and-russialocation-kyiv/887348060902269/

(Sorry this Led By Dockers video seams to only be on Facebook and Instagram)

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

I know.

OP said Putin policies, which is false. There's enough disinformation floating about without adding to it.

For the record, Farage is a cunt.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

Agree....

Farage and pals are totally hanging out of Putin's arse and a lot of what they do and say will no doubt make him happy, especially when it comes to support for Ukraine.

Not sure which of their policies are the same as Putins though

[–] digitalFatteh@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

A POS conservative being a POS. Colour me surprised.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

Is that like moving from the compost to the landfill?

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

shock.

[–] ladel@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm shocked it took her this long

[–] annoyed_onion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Kinda assumed it had already happened and just wasn't shouted about as it's not really news