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I woke up today, to a public comment in a Lemmy community asking a series of tagged accounts why they had downvoted certain posts

I thought that reactions to posts and comments are anonymous and now I don't really know what to feel about Lemmy any more.

In this case I had downvoted a poster because of its design, but was confronted publicly for being racist because the person assumed that I downvoted the message on the poster

EDIT: changed the title from "How" to "Why" because it broke rule nr 5 about it being a support question

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Locking for rule 5.

edit: Unlocked.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Votes being public is kinda cool, same for mod actions and who made them.  Cool way to counter the Resdit type shadow, secret decisions and botted and bought votes.

Reddit even allows you to hide all your action history (no comment history), which is done to make it easier for bots and bought accounts to operate.

As for someone calling you or anyone out for voting certain way, who cares, tell them to go pound sand

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

It needs to be open for federation to work. It needs to share what votes are by whom from where. If instances don't have this information they can't really moderate. They can't block people or other instances.

Users typically don't have access to this information, but any admin does. Because of how federation works though, anyone can become an admin pretty easily. Also, you can go somewhere that publishes the data for you who's done that work already.

I don't see this as an issue personally. It's just something to be aware of. I wish it was told to new users so they aren't surprised, but now that you know you can be prepared. Always assume others can see your votes.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Who cares? Upvote what you like, downvote what you don't. Who cares if someone has a whinge.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 day ago

If someone is posting about you downvoting them, then they're a seriously flawed individual. Some people will take any reason they can to call other people racist. I think it's a fetish, honestly.

You're fine.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The lesson here is that your assumption about how the system works is wrong.

That means can mean 1 important thing :

  • it was not explained clearly enough for you during your onboarding.

Consequently I suggest you recall when you started using Lemmy, how you heard about it, how you then understood how it work and thus potentially update the documentation (or whatever you relied on then) accordingly so that others don't make the same mistake.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Much easier to determine vote manipulation when there is no central authority to handle it and the votes, as well as moderation actions, are publicly visible.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I just block anyone who confronts me about why I voted a certain way. "Because I felt like it, fuck off cunt" is my go-to justification.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago

The glasses never stop

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The protocol is ActivityPub not ActivityPriv

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 1 day ago

And certainly not ActivityCafé

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I'm pretty sure the Pub doesn't stand for Public, but rather Publish.

edit: not saying that it is private, just my opinion on whether the pub is an adjective or a verb

[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Still Publish, not Privish.

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[–] Andy_R@feddit.uk 83 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

The Fediverse is open, everything you do on here is fully public.

It's why I prefer it over reddit, where who knows what really happens with all the vote manipulation and brigading.

To answer your question, it is all listed alongside upvotes on the posts if using mbin.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

everything you do on here is fully public.

Even DMS?

[–] Andy_R@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes.

I don't know of any clients that publicly show it, but the information is sent out as a json that can be read by anyone setup to receive them.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for the clarification but is it for non-local DMs only or even local DMs and if so why?

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

ActivityPub is public by design and admins can easily read DMs. Not sure about it Joe public can read any dm.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Admins of most services where data aren't encrypted can read data that is not public so I'd assume that by default.

Now my question specifically is about "Joe public".

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[–] K3can@lemmy.radio 30 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Isn't the Fediverse supposed to be open?

You can show your personal support for something by upvoting it or your opposition to something by downvoting it, but if you don't want to take a stance on something at all, you don't have to.

It's an entirely optional mechanic. You can fully utilize Lemmy to view, post, and comment without ever voting if you don't want to.

As far as I'm aware, the votes don't really matter, anyway. Lemmy doesn't seem to use karma the way that Reddit does. i.e. I've never seen a post removed because the user didn't have enough karma, etc.

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[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 days ago (38 children)
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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I was sceptic of the open concept at first. But now I find it appealing, because comment and post history are also public. If people wanted, they could probably extract my living place, job, sexual preferences and political opinions from my comment history of 1,000 comments. So why hide the up- and down votes?

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