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cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/fns/p/617670/not-a-date-to-celebrate
Man this is so overblown. If it was moved to the 28th, all these whiners wouldn't even remember in a year or two. As long as I get a holiday in late January, I don't care about the date. These people always say the sky will fall if we change anything (gay marriage, banning smoking in bars, etc) then we do it and nothing bad happens.
I think what we need to do is to start our own Australia day celebration on an agreed date. We have to spend the currently official day either doing nothing or raising awareness and yet the racists(or uninformed if you're young/new to the country) get to enjoy it celebrating.
I would love a day where we could all celebrate this beautiful country. We need to start the change we want to see in this world and raising awareness has been an excellent step in this journey.
That's actually a pretty fucking good idea. Why wait for the government to tell us what to do, they can follow our lead.
There was a moment on question everything where someone suggested a two word slogan for the yes vote: 'long weekend'.
You can see Will Anderson's mind explode.
Do you mean that instead of having Australia day be negative on 26th, start the celebration on another day first. Let the mood shift there naturally, rather than out of negativity on the day that's already in place, albeit inappropriately.
Nah, it's about getting the sympathetic guilt of white leftists out in one day so they can still feel like good people.
They have to have the day be negative for that.
Celebrate and teach about actual Indigenous figures and history? Nah, you won't find support for that here.
You'll find support for reproducing the existing culture. "More of the same" they'll say whilst claiming to be progressives... Progress to what? They don't have the slightest clue, and refuse to think about it.
Obligatory "not all the leftists!" but you're right. I guarantee nobody in this thread actually gives a shit about the plight in indigenous communities or has any interest in materialist change tackling the dearth of jobs and opportunities fueling rampant alcoholism and abuse. They don't want to do anything good, they just want to guilt trip so they can feel superior
Link to the QR code btw: https://www.clothingthegaps.com.au/pages/not-a-date-to-celebrate
Can you please add this to the post for visibility @Deceptichum@quokk.au?
Added.
I have an argument that gets those racist idiots to agree to moving the day.
Wouldn't it be nicer to have a public holiday when the weather's nicer instead of it being 40 odd degrees? We should move it to a part of the year where it's still good to go out but it's not boiling hot. Perfect getting blind drunk and passing out on the grass in the middle of the day weather.
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I see you've all downvoted various posts about Aboriginal people on the front page here, many of you multiple times, but not other posts - care to make your opinions more public?
While I disagree with down voting, especially en masse or on racist grounds, I am also against public shaming of voting. It's part of the reason voting is partly hidden.
Of course, you can only have a discussion with commenters, not lurkers.
It's purity tests given out as ideological gatekeeping. Essentially a way to sow division and make the left unpopular.
Wow, tracing people online. :-) I hate racism, promoting one race over other is racism no mater what. All this jumping around First nation only creates more hate toward them, it is not helping at all. Want to help, help people in disadvantage no matter what race they are. If it will go predominately to aboriginals, fine, it means they need it more.
My opinion is fuck you, your drama and the horse you rode in on.
Upvotes and downvotes are used to indicate what people should see, and I don't think people should see your posts.
They're not posts "about aboriginal people". They're posts about Australia day.
It should be a day to celebrate indigenous people and indigenous history, from Tullamareena for burning down Melbourne jail, to A. M. Fernando for protesting covered in skeletons outside of Buckingham Palace.
I think Australia Day is used to celebrate the wrong things, and I'll downvote posts I think do that. That's my business and you're not the fucking moral police of me cunt face.
Yes, I only ever see you here to stir up drama and your flood of posts agitating against a day you would never celebrate anyway regardless of the date are no exception. You're doing it again with this comment, post stuff that's not attempting to stir up shit if you want upvotes.
I am not Australian and I don't know the entire history or context, but one thing I can say is that not only can people change but nations can change, too. It's possible to celebrate what a nation has become without celebrating what they've done.
The discussion is mostly about the date, some suggest 3 December, 1 January, 3 March or 9 July.
It’s possible to celebrate what a nation has become without celebrating what they’ve done.
A nation's actions are a direct result of what the nation is. And many of the shameful actions of Australia are ongoing.
I love this land, I love many, many people here, and I love many of the things we've created together. But I have no desire to celebrate this nation as it stands. I feel no more kinship with someone on the other side of the country to someone on the other side of the world - we are all fellow humans. I treat visitors and immigrants with the same respect I give local citizens. For the many positive parts of Australian culture, I spot as many negatives.
But even all that aside, if you want to celebrate the positive parts and ignore the negative... it's embarrassing to plaster the United Kingdom flag everywhere. Green and gold > red, white and blue.
And it's also possible to change the date to one that does not mark a genocide.
Spin a wheel and pick a date. It doesn't matter when it is, just as long as it's not yet another 'fuck you' to the first nations.
Such a petty and easy to fix thing, but all the skungebags with flags sticking out of their utes seem to think this has some sort of cultural heritage to them. At least the US southerners have a generational gap between them and the loser flag.
I guess making 1/1 Australia day would conflict with New Year's Day somewhat... Any other significant days in Australia's history that don't mark genocide?
March 3, 1986 I guess.
I am not Australian and I don’t know the entire history or context
And yet you decided to weigh in anyway. Amazing.
I made a general statement.
They have a point. Why play devil's advocate on a subject you admit to knowing nothing about?
Because I know enough to make a general statement which holds true in any circumstance.
Hmm yes very smart. Add a useless platitude to a thread you have no idea about or stake in. No background reading or nuance here, just thought terminating cliches! I wonder why nobody is praising your amazing intellect.
You state that nuance and circumstance can make the statement false? Present it.
No, I don't. It's just meaningless. You might as well have posted "water is wet".
Water is wet.
Oh yes of course, you were just saying some words. You freely admit not knowing the context but it didn't occur to you to, idk, educate yourself first? Nah, more important to just say words because idk, freezed peaches or something.
This is why no one likes Seppos.
Whis AI made this? Australians don't use month-day format, we use day-month format.
Ps, nothing against the statement being made here..
It's not AI made and where are you even seeing a XX/XX/XX format on this poster?
I think the real commenter thought "26 is" was the 15th month of 2026, which is completely reasonable...
"January 26 15" at the top. I mean, even translating that from American date format, it still doesn't make sense unless the poster was originally made for Australia day 2015..
Again though, nothing against the statement being made, I am in the "Australia day isn't a celebration" camp too. Just a shame the date format isn't Australian date format. It detracts from the effectiveness of the statement by making the incorrect date format the focus, rather than the statement being made.
Thats "is" not "15", a fair mistake to make the font does make it look like a 15
That’s IS not 15
Fair enough, although "January 26" is still American date format, not Australian date format.
Anyway, not trying to cause an argument or anything, just pointing out some tips you might like to pass on to the graphic designer and marketing team. I'll see myself out.
We have no standard for if we say 26 of Jan or Jan 26th. The only standard we have is for de/mm/yyyy format.
That says is not 15.