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[–] civilfolly@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Start investing in Iron Lung companies. Their stock price is about to go way up.

Making Polio Great Again! (For the stock price must always go up)

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But Dr. Milhoan said that making the vaccines optional, rather than requiring them for entry into public schools nationwide, as is now the case, would ultimately restore trust in public health.

So, they already are optional. It's just that there are consequences for choosing that option (can't get into public schools), and Republicans hate consequences. Except, dying from measles, or getting paralyzed by polio, are also consequences.

I'm beginning to think that this is really just a ploy to make public schools unsafe, so that people that can afford it shift to for profit private schools, which of course will be allowed to continue to require vaccines.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

You certainly can't have centralized education without mandatory vaccination. It would be too great of a vector for mass infections.

[–] Azhad@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly at this point is pretty obvious that USA owners have decided to depopulate the place now that robots and ai are coming.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yes this is my fear also. But globally.

[–] exussum@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Has anyone heard from Moscow Mitch in a minute?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is like the one thing Mitch is right about.

[–] susi7802@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here in Germany most vaccinations are voluntary. The government may strongly advice to get a certain vaccination, but only for measles there is an obligation to get children vaccinated.

[–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Out of curiosity, do you know how many people opt not to get them? USA has a growing prevalence of vaccine hesitancy/anti science that gets concentrated amongst regions/social groups. It's an issue IMO because you get areas with low herd immunity, but if we didn't have that problem and the vast majority of people were on board then having them be voluntary wouldn't be an issue to me. In the current state of affairs I think it's too dangerous to have them be voluntary in the USA.

[–] tehsillz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Fine with me as long as they close the borders and don't let anyone leave.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So ... this is what Rule of the Numbskulls looks like. Whelp ... now we know.

The only shots they support are gunshots.

[–] vpol@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

Make iron lungs great again

The rich right have private enclaves and unlimited medical access so they are fine with this. The poor right has horse medication and bleach.

[–] flamingleg@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

other than vaccine induced polio how would a modern day person in the USA even get exposed to polio?

[–] jayambi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone comes as a tourist infectetd? Or maybe like 2022 when it was found in New Yorks waste water in 4 counties. But i'm not arguing. No one who thinks they should not vaccinate is fine for me and i hope not that they are getting infected. The main reason why people can decide that way is because others have decided to take the "risk" and go for a vaccine to make the virus virtually disappear. And this kind of bendy-twisty moral is wehre i have problems understanding the rationality of those people. But hey why not, the palestinias did nothing wrong after all...

[–] flamingleg@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

did you read the link i provided? in case the implication wasn't clear i'll say it explicitly. Viruses which are virtually nonexistent (not circulating in the population) can be induced in a population by vaccination itself (in rare cases when using an attenuated virus).

This means there is a risk, especially for viruses like polio which basically don't exist anymore, that a vaccination program will generate polio cases which then spread and create a new outbreak of polio.

Those recent outbreaks of polio were thought to be from an unnecessarily aggressive vaccination program, at least that's the reporting i encountered.

I haven't done a risk calculation, i don't claim to be an epidemiologist or to know at what point this exotic risk outweighs the benefit of herd immunity. I suspect that calculation depends on things like exposure points in the population, general immunity, and the %of people already vaccinated historically.

It's definitely a real effect (i linked directly to the american CDC) and it should be included in any discussion concerning virtually dead viruses. It hasn't been made up by 'antivaccers' and for me personally i don't even bring this up in those kind of spaces because i don't trust them to parse this level of nuance and contradiction to be brutally honest.

The risk profile probably varies virus to virus also.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the wrong comm for this isn’t it?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I literally can't even imagine how you would come to that conclusion.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Because it's about anti-science.

It was a joke.