Did they just add the three groups as if they were the same size and then divided by 3?
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Yes, yes they did.
Ya... I just lose any remaining faith/hope after seeing this kind of statistics. How is it possible, after all that has been happening under the Trump name, to still think that the country is "ok".
I am in the EU, but we have Trump apologists here as well, and our own version of right-wing people. They are basically all the same, a copy of each other. And every time I try to get some sense into them, I just find out that that is not possible. They just live in a completely different reality. Their brain is not receptive to facts and truth and any sort of empathy. They are highly emotional people, and their emotion is hate. They hate all groups of people that are not them. They are homophobic, they are transphobic, they are sexist, they are racist and they are xenophobic. They have no principles other than hate. They are not coherent in their beliefs, only hate. They are tribal.
I just don't see a way forward. I think we have to go without them. Maybe some of them, the ones that are not quite yet lost, can be reasoned with. Maybe the way to get them to change is to show them that their personal lives would improve under a leftist government. But convincing them of that is just so hard to do. You have to turn off their hate, which I have not been able to do it yet.
to think it's ok.
Not even that, to think it's BETTER. Brainless automatons.
That 19% is the reason why Republicans keep winning.
Given the US Democratic system, 32% should be enough for a third term, right?
We're fucking doomed
yup
Motherfucker blew through nearly 3 trilly in a single year and 1 in 5 people in this dumbfuck country are like "doesn't look like anything to me."
there's always going to be a big chunk that support him no matter what. They simply have no values aside from "Trump good".
They don't know how bad it is because they get their news from megacorps who will NEVER tell them such facts.
Blame the people who have control. Not the people struggling to make sense of mountians of capitalist propaganda on a middleschooler's education.
Eh.
I went to public school. I even have a MAGAt parent.
I didn't end up MAGA stupid.
Yeah, the odds are stacked against the average American, but that doesn't give them a pass to be stupid enough to vote for fascism.
A lot of them watch that corpo news because it reinforces what they already want to believe. Many of them are just fucking racists.
You're on Lemmy. We're already pre-selected to be not complete and utter dumbasses.
Reinforcement of belief is comfortable to all animals, let alone humans.
Sure, a TON of MAGAts are hateful, especially after ten years to wake the fuck up, but to pretend conservatives and fascists aren't exploiting basic animal insecurity is to absolutely and completely fail to understand how this shit grabs people.
Something tells me he developed his political opinions before joining Lemmy...
So, 51% of the Americans are utterly stupid.
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I'm reading 32% as "Actually I'm loving this fascism, it's great" and the remaining 19% as "When you're at the bottom of the well it's hard to go lower".
Neither seem stupid.
Fascism is stupid.
I mean, all of what one might construe as benefits of fascism would be better served otherwise: strengthening your country, a sense of belonging, public order…
You’ll experience a much stronger sense of belonging if you don’t push your neighbors to hate you because you’ve arbitrarily decided to hate them and support doing bad things to them.
Letting armed thugs arbitrarily arrest people is not public order, quite the opposite.
Countries which have fully embraced fascism never stayed strong for very long and lost quite a lot in the process. This is when they were ever strong in the first place.
And I’m not even going to talk about the even more blatant lies (family values, moral righteousness, upholding traditions…)
Makes sense. It's always been the minority that support trump.
The US is not a democracy
This is why I don’t think it’s a good idea to live in America. America is rapidly on its way to becoming a failed state. It’s best to move to other countries that still know that up is up and down is down, 2+2=4.
Is it easy to just move to another country?
It is not.
Still, it'd be a good idea to get your passports in order now as at some point you may be able to seek asylum in another country if the US is deemed a warzone.
Our instance put together a guide to prepare for a fascist regime, which includes info on emigration and passports.
That's kinda obvious though, isn't it? I don't think many people are choosing to move to the USA nowadays. And the ones that already live there can't really just move out - either due to family ties, bureaucracy or lack of resources to do so. I'm guessing that the last one is the biggest factor.
America seems pretty big on making their citizens under-educated and deeply indebted. Most other countries don't let you migrate into them unless you can prove that you're financially stable and can hold down employment. My parents moved from Russia to Germany about 20 years ago, and that was only possible because they were highly educated and the company that my father was brought in to work for could prove that literally no other candidate in Europe could do the job.
Now imagine you're an american kid, either fresh out of college with a ton of debt or never having done college with no proof of education. Either way, there's a good chance your only previous employment was in the gig economy. The chance that any other country would happily let you move in is pretty slim..
up is up and down is down, 2+2=4
You've got a source on that? /s
Pure and utter delusion is the only way anyone could find this to be "better off"
Yeah, there's no hope... we're beyond fucked...
The high "better off" opinion of the conservatives is probably based on "it is fashionable again to be openly racist", nothing more.
A big percentage of that is people believing Fox News telling them things are better.
My maga relatives have talked recently, again, about how much safer DC is and how the economy is "now going like gangbusters". They really believe it.
Simple questions like "how" and "why" completely derail them.
Not in my experience. They just give really vague answers and either ignore or get upset when you press for more detail. Or tell you things that simply aren't true
get upset
That's them being derailed. They're upset that they don't know anything deeper than the buzzwords they've learned.
If they actually understood and believed their positions, they could answer those questions.
All this only makes Putin very, very happy.
Trumpers are fucking stupid, and their propaganda is really effective
Effective on stupid, lazy, incurious people who want to be told what they want to hear.
Like I needed more stats proving America is the land of the stupid.