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[–] CyberMonkey403@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

This got posted to reddit futurology and the copium in the comments is somewhat funny

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

And the US commits national suicide.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

and condemns anyone who tries to advocate for anything otherwise.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

don't forget medical debt and gun violence.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

God I want a nuclear reactor in my literal backyard.

Fortunately I live in Illinois the state that has over 50% of it's power provided by Nuclear, the most in the nation. (As of 2024, Illinois generates 53.62% of electricity from nuclear power, 31.10% from fossil fuels (comprising of coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases), and 15.28% from renewables (comprising of wind, solar, hydropower, and biomass)). It will be nice to get the renewable mix up too, but in the meantime I'm quite happy. Electricity isn't the cheapest, but it surely is the cleanest which is the only thing that actually matters.

https://cleanenergy.illinois.gov/tracking-illinois-progress/electricity-generation-mix.html

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why is nuclear power still so popular? I thought nuclear was the most expensive kind of energy when renewables were the cheapest.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nuclear power is non-intermittent and can be used pretty much anywhere. With a push for small-scale reactors, there's a good chance for smaller places to get their own nuclear power plant, reducing stress on the national grid, and for power plants to be constructed in a much shorter timeframe.

Also, both Russia and China have floating nuclear power plants that can be transported to regions with water access on demand.

Solar and wind are cool, and quite cheap by themselves, but energy storage is a massive and expensive headache and limited placement options mean the grid should be robust enough to accommodate them with minimal power losses.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. I think it must be just Australia that would have to pay a lot for nuclear energy. I guess other countries have ways of producing it more cheaply.

besides that wind and solar will be the only option soon enough once we run out of uranium and other radioactive reserves. Unless fusion catches up.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Australia has plenty of insolation and most power consumers are packed densely enough not to worry about the upkeep of large grids.

Aside from uranium, we also have a much more plentiful thorium to use as a fission fuel. We definitely are not running out of that. But, thorium power plants can be more expensive, and byproducts of thorium cycle are less valuable, so it's worth comparing that to running a renewables-based grid again.

[–] ChokingHazard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’ve been hoodwinked by the fossil fuel industry lobby that has also misled entire movements (the greens) to be sympathetic when originally they were the reverse. They’ve lobbied for draconian regulations and making the political and economic costs be too high for self preservation. You know like every entrenched industry in America.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

My information is coming from Australia, where nuclear energy was heavily pushed by the fossil fuel industry (mainly because it would take like 30+ years for the first power plant to be in operation allowing them to expand coal and gas power plants in the meantime.) even though several reports where made debunking these claims and showing how horrible of an idea it would be to build nuclear energy for so many reasons including it's incredibly high price tag (these same documents showed how renewable energy is generally the cheapest.)

Maybe this is only the case in Australia.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The only thing that matters is how clean our power is. If you are worrying about "cost" you are supporting capitalism and the fossil fuel industry. And cost to consumers is extremely misleading mostly as a result of power policy, completely divorced from cost to generate. Nuclear can absolutely be cheap, just end the subsidies on other fuel sources, allowing fuel recycling, and imprison all shareholders, congressmen, and lobbyists of the international energy cartels.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Cost still matters, especially if renewable energy is cheaper and has the same emissions.

I am not supporting capitalism by saying that cost still matters. If socialist states didn't care about cost when building stuff they would have all dissolved long ago.

Anyway I very well may be wrong that nuclear is expensive. It is likely just expensive in Australia which is where I live and were I have done my research on (Since Aussie maga has been pushing hard for nuclear energy recently)

[–] Ooops@feddit.org -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Funny story.

And now give us numbers how those "dominance in nuclear upbuild" compares to power production in general...

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, what does the US produce? If you really think it can even begin to compare with China you live in another dimension.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did not mention the US (who are just now trying very hard to become a failed state anyway) but was talking about other power production. No one but lobbyists still riding the dead horse that is nuclear power is caring for who dominates in construction of new reactors when that's a very small fraction of added production capacity, globally as well as in China.

Making yet another story about some "big push for nuclear" when it's actually just varying levels of stagnation and decline while renewables show exponential growth is either colossally stupid of bullshit propaganda.

Not that those fairy tales about a nuclear future with renewable upbuild collapsing any day now are new as we all should know by now:

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[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

China still dominates.