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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Shared walls are terrible 95% of the time. No respite from people if you have to hear people 24/7.

Coughing. Children mewling. Coughing. TV. TV ads. Throat clearing. Other people’s music. Coughing.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like the builder cheaping out. I live in an apartment and we have never heard anything through the walls. If the neighbor yells, like actually screams, we can hear it through the door. I do think the doors could be heavier.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

Too true. I had relatives sell parts of their building off as condos. Fully soundproofed. Nice places. One guy tore out all his floor sound proofing during an aesthetic floor renovation. Then sued after because he didn’t like the new noise.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

This. The only time I hear anything through the shared wall is kids running up and down the stairs. Even yelling barely comes through and you need your side to be very quiet to hear it.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I almost never hear my neighbors.

I'd rather hear some noise and live in a walkable area than have silence and live in a car-hell cultural void

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk. There’s something about a place so quiet you can hear goats in the distance, on occasion, and deer, chewing.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 months ago

Sure. But I don't want to live there full time. I want to be able to walk to the bar, take a bus to the show, and so on.

Honestly, the distant sounds of humans can also be comforting in a white noise kind of way. Sometimes I think about how they're all part of someone's life story.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not the government's place to be banning that for people.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No. But it is a miserable way to live, under constant barrage of stress.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Better than homelessness.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 months ago

That's an incredibly privileged POV to hold.

[–] destructdisc@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Sounds like terribly thin walls. I live in a densely packed apartment complex, and on most days the worst I have to deal with is the sound of kids playing in the little courtyard area the complex is built around. I barely hear anything from my neighbors, and even then it's usually through the door, not the walls.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

My apartment is so quiet. Like, yeah, I can hear the neighbours drilling but that can't be helped. When I close the windows, I barely hear anything from outside. But of course if you're talking about the most affordable kind of construction, noise isolation will definitely suffer.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I live in attached housing but in a fairly suburban area and by far the biggest source of noise are the vehicles belonging to single family houses. Like, nothing else even comes close and I've never once heard someone else's TV over the racket from the road. The detached houses next to my complex seemingly all have trucks and motorcycles that they rev at all hours.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

The worst are tho lifted trucks that feel the need to “punch it” for brief moments on 25mph streets.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Here is a good peertube video I just watched on the same topic: https://video.canadiancivil.com/w/kyTV9jbx7ereGmzUFXGmBJ

[–] AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Everyone loves the idea of super duper dense housing until they actually have to live there.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love it. My entire life I lived in the country and suburbia. I have lived in a city the last few years, I can bike most places, take transit to the rest of them, I rent a car share when I want one(I don't own one), and I have 4 grocery stores within a 5 minute walk.

[–] AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can also bike most places and there's a bus stop 10 meters away from my house. I don't need to rent a car because I can afford one from not spending 90% of my income on housing :D

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That sounds dope. Ha, I'll agree my housing isn't cheap and I miss having my own shop, but the community machine shop is better stocked then mine ever was. I can afford a car, I'm just trying to live without one. I will never miss a daily commute in a car.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You live in the city. You sleep in your home. This is what suburbanites don't understand. When you actually live someplace where there are things to do, the idea of wanting a bunch of extra air to lord over starts to feel a little bit silly.

[–] AceOnTrack@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 months ago

How arrogant lmao. Typical city rat who thinks nothing happens outside of their concrete hellscape. You know nothing about where I live.

There's plenty of things I can do here with the added bonus of not having to deal with shit neighbors.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Great, don't live there then. More super dense housing for me!