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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 days ago

This is the Kavanaugh stop in real time. The Supreme Court allowed this to happen with their overturning of Perdomo v. Noem last September.

We are now seeing the consequences of that corrupt decision.

Fuck ICE, fuck Brett Kavanaugh, fuck John Roberts, fuck Clarence Thomas, fuck Samuel Alito, fuck Neil Gorsuch, fuck Amy Coney Barrett, and fuck Trump for installing those corrupt justices.

People need to start arming themselves.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 106 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"You have an accent too" is the line that bothered ICE the most.

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Another latino who wants so much to be white. My family is filled with them.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

This is a standard Kavanaugh stop, perfectly legal in the land of the free.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

My mom also has an accent and she's a US Citizen.

Fuck off ICE

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Goddammit we need to be armed, they fucker would not be harassing that man if he been armed. We need what they got in Phili with the Black Panthers.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Then go get armed. Take your course, learn to wield safely, practice responsible ownership and open carry. Use your second amendment, protect it by practicing it.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, the fourth is still law. And, anyone whose rights are violated needs to sue. Hopefully, there are a bunch of lawyers who want an easy payday.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

How long will it take for such a case to come to a verdict, and what will the fascists co tknie to do in the meantime?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 days ago

So free, so brave.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

*only applies to rich white men

Exclusively at that. If you're not rich, not white, or not a man, you're fucked.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, best I can do is “land”.

Land? No. Landlords.

... free to the power of the people in uniform

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Folks, yet another Kavanaugh stop for your edification.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

I have a boring Midwest accent, but it might be fun to wander in and out of accents when in earshot of these guys. Just change it with each answer.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

They should be held accountable to the Latino community after this is all said and done.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Land ~~of the free~~.