THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Another latino who wants so much to be white. My family is filled with them.
White person here. Why would you want to be white? Here's the thing about race....it doesn't fucking matter.
Imagine a species that gets angry at other members of their own species, for having the wrong eye color. Or the wrong shaped finger prints.
It makes no sense! My skin is white. Your skin depending on genes and sun exposure is anywhere from a light tan to a dark tan.
But when you go to work, I'm sure your boss is a dickhead. I'm sure you come home to a family that you love and want to protect. I'm sure you feel underpaid and unappriciated at work. I'm sure you have some household chore or task that you've been putting off for 6 months that your wife nags you about.
None of this is unique to you, or your race. It's everyone. Thats what we're all going through, throughout all of history. Go back in time and I'm sure George Washingtons wife was asking him when he's going to fix the squeeky cabinet door. And he's like "LOOK MARTHA! I'M BUSY AS HELL RUNNING THE COUNTRY! THE BRITISH WAR IS OVER, BUT THEY MIGHT COME BACK! KING GEORGE IS A MASSIVE DICKHEAD! AND RIGHT NOW I'M A LITTLE BUSY TRYING TO ESTABLISH A NEW COUNTRY! SO FORGIVE ME IF I COME HOME EXAUSTED AND STRESSED!"
And then she's like "It's just that you said you'd do it LAST weekend, but then you and Ben Franklin went out drinking, and.....squeek squeek squeek .......yeah....."
I will never understand these people who think one race is better than the other. I mean really. If we're going to have some arbitrary line in the sand over who's the master race, it shouldn't be based on race. It should be based on blood type. At least THAT has some basis in being functionally different!
Jeez.......humans out here acting like being born in one country or having dark skin makes any difference at all.
Look.. I'll say this wrong, and I might make you pissed off at me for saying this, of make you feel attacked ot think that I am missing your point entirely, but...
Sure, It shouldn't make a difference.. but it's a perfect example of privilege to think that it doesn't.. it's like a rich person saying money doesn't matter... :-/
Sorry friend...
Maybe If you’re white. Everything happening in the US right now makes it clear that your race does matter when it comes to your safety.
I’m white, and even I can recognise that this take comes from a place of privilege.
Race wouldn’t matter. Except for all the racists. My skin is white. When I’m around only others who share that trait, many of them show their true colors thinking they’re in good company. They just fucking tell on themselves.
Or some of them will make comments like yours.
It sure as hell matters and has mattered for centuries. If you're white and wealthy, you have carte blache to do what you want to do essentially. If you're poor, you're not as stopped as often as a POC. If you're not white, like clearly not white, you're already mistreated in this country. If it didn't matter we wouldn't have needed the civil rights movement. We wouldn't have to worry about them abolishing its legislation either. So yes, it matters a FUCKING lot.
It's highly common in latino families. We are taught to assimilate. Marry white means success. If you act good enough you will be accepted as one of the white people. A lot of Gen X and Millennials were never taught how to speak spanish. Many latinos claim to be more Spaniard then south American. That's why a lot of latinos pull the ladder up when they become successful. They think they "made it" and are accepted among white people.
It's one thing to say it doesn't matter, it's another to actually try to go out and make it not matter, because the way our society works right now - especially in the last few years - it absolutely matters. The only way it's going to change is if we go out and fight to earn equality for everyone, and even when we do that we'll still need to be vigilant to make sure shit like this doesn't start happening again.
White people are treated like blonde girls. There's a slight extra layer you're treated with. Even if it doesn't make sense. Unfortunately that's where we are. Some people aspire to be white. If you've ever heard of the baseball player Sammy Sosa, a Hall of Fame level player, he's white now. Skin bleaching is a thing. Many accused Michael Jackson of the same thing, though he claimed a medical reason. One of the books that a lot of kids read in high school, or at least they did in mine, is also about a black girl who dreams of growing up to be white (The Bluest Eye, I never actually read this book so this characterization might not be fair).
You have to be a bot, nobody is this ignorant.
Counterpoint, half the US voters, voted for Trump.