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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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https://eyesonice.substack.com/p/minneapolis-mn-notoriously-carcinogenic

While local police are banned from using chemical irritants because of the danger they pose to the public, federal units operating in our city are using a loophole to deploy a poison that toxicity experts warn causes permanent lung damage and cancer.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 128 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Jfc people we learned to deal with this in 2019-2020. Wall of Dads in portland had the recipe.

Get the fucking electric leafblowers out. Push the smoke back at the feds.

Then you take an orange cone and put it on top of the canister, then pour water into the hole on top and cool the canister down and it stops producing the agent.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Add some baking soda to that water, shuts it of pretty much instantly.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not aware of it this, can you explain more?

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Likely just a tale.

Baking soda is basic, Which would imply that the chemical being used is acidic so that it's neutralized with baking soda. This also assumes that they mix in such a way that baking soda actually makes contact with enough of that chemical to have any effect.

All of these are pretty big assumptions that are very easily wrong for many number of devices and chemicals.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This, send battery leaf blowers

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago
[–] tryagain@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Leaf blowers, umbrellas, traffic cones, milk... the knowledge will circulate again

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Milk hasn't been shown to work, best practice is saline eye irrigation (normal water works in a pinch)

[–] tryagain@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

TIL, thank you

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

TIL, thanks for posting this

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It just feels like we have the formula for dealing with this and for some reason, people forgot the almost 20 years of protest tactics we learned starting with occupy.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Organizing ain’t easy ;/ in these times though, it’s surely necessary.

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

People also de-mobilize and re-mobilize. New people coming to protests who don't have the knowledge or experience

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

So, chemical warfare? Isn't that illegal?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Only in other countries, its up to us to stop them from killing us in our own country.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bootstraps and stuff, go look it up! /s

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

I mean yeah, its one of the largest, richest, most heavily armed populations on earth. No one else is going to come and fix shit for them.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

We don't have a fragile reputation to protect, we can make better chemicals

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Only against other countries in a war formally declared by congress

[–] miguel@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago

Last I checked most of this is illegal.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Its only warcrimes if used against citizens of other countries citizens.

its perfectly A-OK to use against your own citizens, apparently.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -2 points 2 weeks ago

Be careful about claiming it to be war. Certain people do want to be able to declare martial law and be even more masks-off with mass kidnappings/killings.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 27 points 2 weeks ago

CHEMICAL WARFARE?

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

This is a terroristic attack. Nothing less.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

They were using this in Portland all summer in front of the ICE building that's across the street from apartment buildings and next door to an elementary school, which was forced to move to a new location when school started due to concerns about exposing kids to toxic chemicals.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drop a bucket over it. Protesters should have buckets handy nearby. Learn from Hong Kong and resist effectively.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

or a traffic cone; or knock it into the sewers. Do not use your hands- the canisters get VERY hot

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

hexachloroethane (HC) gas is actually most harmful when absorbed through the skin.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Molotov cocktails are cheap and easy to make. Just saying.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Used diapers and dog shit are free and they fit well in those elastic band water balloon launchers.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So are water balloons filled with paint and motor oil

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

Durian oil.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sorry, do ICE think they breathe a different air than protestors or do masks suddenly work at filtering out respiratory agents?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

hexachloroethane (HC) gas is actually most harmful when absorbed through the skin.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s the whole point of gas masks, yes.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was referring to the little bandit masks they wear.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

don't like when we shoot you dead? try cancer instead!

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Am I misreading that video, or is the smoke blowing back at the pigs?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

Give the fascist paramilitary invaders a break, they've only been trained for 47 days.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I cannot find cooborating reporting on this, does anyone have more data?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most news orgs say tear gas as a catch all. However there are several other videos showing green smoke being used as a chemical irritant. Tear gas and CS gas is not green. So if it is not HC gas being deployed the it is some new chemical compound.