Technology

How about fuck you Jeff.

They also want our cars, they want our homes, they want our lives.

Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

We're so doomed. A lot of people will probably buy into this because they can't possibly be inconvenienced by owning a computer.

I was talking about AI with someone the other day and they said, "Wow, in the future we probably won't be able to work without a subscription to ChatGPT. Oh, well." Like. wat. teh. faq. People see the convenience trap, but can't be bothered to do anything about it. I hate this timeline.

So that's what they meant by techno feudalism.

So, these idiots didn't learn their lesson the first time with the colossal flop that was Stadia and now they want to convince us that, this time for sure, we really don't want to own our own hardware and cloud computing is the future?

These guys should not be getting a single bent penny for convincing people to switch over to cloud computing when their AI slop machines are responsible for the scarcity that is causing hardware prices to be completely uneconomical.

Imagine a world where you have been blacklisted from their services because you posted online about the corruption he feeds.

now imagine how difficult it will be to get or keep a job where you can't use a computer when 85% of all jobs now require AI "skills".

don't worry, you can work in one of the many warehouses at Amazon...

No thanks, I'm good.

Sure, we've all seen how the de-centralized internet became centralized around a few big-tech and what that does for availability. When he turns off the cloud-pc I've got nothing, and all I can do about it is ...... also nothing. So if my data isn't on my hardware at a location I can access 24/7 it really isn't my data!!

Fucking parasite.

I'm not sure how, but billionaires need to have their billions forcibly taken and redirected toward the public good. If humanity wants any future other than techno-feudalist fascism we need to figure out how to destroy the global billionaire class permanently within the next few decades or we are gonna be fucked for centuries. You'll rent everything and own nothing, they will bleed everyone dry, and if you rise up to disrupt the system you'll get a robot boot on your neck.

Something something cold, dead hands

Bezos isn't a visionary, he's a recationary. His opinions are worth less than the toilet paper I use to wipe my asshole with. Ya'll need to get off Lex Luthor's nutbag.

As @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com stated. This would never work in the US without major overhaul to existing infastructure. I'm rocking a 32/32 Mbps atm. My parents? they get 5. I have to enable steam to limit itself to 512kb/s download or I will take down their network as a whole and if anyone is using youtube or netflix it has to be a 240p or it starts to granulate. Remind me how a cloud based PC is going to work in this state.

I would rather never touch a computer again than rent one.

This is actually terrifying. Switching to Linux will help us for a while, and the community can take us a long way, but eventually the hardware in physical PCs won't be able to perform basic functions. Maybe it's because cloud PCs use vastly more power and web designers inefficiently update to a web 4.0 that won't be accessible on older hardware -- this has happened before. Or it'll be because the cloud PCs have access to Wi-Fi cards or a new technology entirely to connect that physical hardware won't have access to -- already a standard practice with cell phones' arbitrary gsm phaseouts.

A phaseout of physical hardware would also entail a phaseout of physical accessories, so you can't data-horde your way out of this one unless, maybe, you invested in the now-rare M-Disc format and the drives that make them work. You can buy external offline storage for a while, but eventually it'll all get bought up on the used market or otherwise fail in 5-10 years after the last hard drives get made for consumers. Eventually you will lose all your files and have no way to back them up. No Jellyfin server for movies you legally ripped, no GOG installers for games you legally bought, no music library or ebooks either, they'll all be gone, stolen, so you buy it all over again in perpetuity.

Our only hope, really, is small businesses continuing to build physical PCs with equal power as the cloud devices. But would parts manufacturers let them? The current situation with data centers, SDDs, and RAM shows that parts manufacturers are increasingly only interested in selling to other large businesses. Consumers can't boycott that.

I fully expect to be unable to access my bank or make appointments or get meaningful employment if I don't switch over in 10 to 20 years.

Luna has what a million users world wide? Its a drop in the bucket. Stadia failed. Game pass streaming sucks ass. Its never going to take off. How much more money do these cunts need??

Meanwhile, I'm preparing myself to long periods of internet outage and intermittent access.

lol, no.

In a sense he’s late. A lot of people already have - phones and tablets and chromebooks.

Millions of people simply do not own a traditional computer.

The rest of us, well, cold dead hands and all that.

I f-ing called it:

https://lemmy.world/comment/21195810

This shit....

As they say in my county: "go and die far from here, so I can't smell you".

Money has never bought brains

I demand you give me control of your entire life, you can trust me.

"You will own nothing and LIKE IT!"

Yeah go screw yourself Tech weirdo's. You could help us, instead you just bleed us dry for profits.

Murica is a deranged shithole. Linux is our only way out of this. To all hardware manifacturers: Build your goddamn drivers for it and free us!

~cry in the capitalist vacuum...

There is no cloud, just someone else computer.

Never ever ever. I learned to code on a 14 year old hp probook. I know how long I can hold out.

Yeah, we get it, Bezos. You want us to shove more and more money down your throat.

Reading the article, the analogy with an own generator and the power grid kind of makes sense at first... until you also make an analogy with broadcast and cable TV for example - you don't get to choose what's on, and in the latter case you're practically paying for ads and some programming in between. So... how about no.

My fear is that those shortages (artificial or not) might at one point really drive us in a different direction. My only option for now is to vote with my wallet and use my stuff for as long as practically feasible.

so everyone owning their own pc is "antiquated" but everyone owning their own car is super cool and awesome. got it.

My answer to that: 🖕

It's not at all surprising that fatcats looks at the juicy profits that Apple makes with their iOS closed garden and think "I want me some of that" - wanting to be a monopolist with captive customers makes the most business sense and is the most natural thing in a Capitalist Economic and Political environment.

Most of the economic activity around Technology nowadays is rent-seeking and only the part which isn't at all about money - open source - isn't about corraling people into closed spaces, removing their choices and then extracting the most money possible from people who now have no other option.

It's kinda like 20 or 30 years ago when Banks looked at cash payments and thought that they should find a way to get comissions on those, same as they got with card payments, so already back they they were pushing things like electronic wallets (back then those were basically a special kind of card) and keep pushing it for decades (often with the support of governments, since 100% electronic payments are great for civil society surveillance), and nowadays in some countries there are pretty much no cash payments so that relentless push for controlling and getting a cut of every single trade has worked in those countries (and people in those places, such as Sweden, having traded a small hidden increase in price - due to banks now getting comissions in everything - and huge loss of privacy for a tiny bit of convenience genuinelly think they're better of).

So yeah, these software fatcats will totally try and get together with hardware makers with a dominant market position to slowly close down PC technology - for example the whole point of TPM is to take control away from the owners of the hardware and the "trusted" in "trusted platform" (aka TPM) isn't about it being trusted by the owner of the hardware, it's about it being trusted by the business selling the OS, who in turn can sell access to the thus gatekept environment to software making businesses.

I believe the whole requirement for TPM 2.0 in Windows 11 even though it doesn't actually need it is just a step in a broader strategy to turn PCs into a closed platform controlled by Microsoft, whilst as we see here other companies are trying to created closed platforms by having everything run in their servers, like Google tried almost a decade ago for games with Stadia and was also tried 2 or 3 decades ago by the likes of Sun Microsystems with the push for Thin Clients.

I worked with someone that defend this isea to the letter, just not contemplating companies.

The argument stemmed from an alledge visit he had done to Japan, where he had seen terminals connected to mainframes, and people used those from their house.

I was only able to raise one argument: that is not my computer.

Mind that this man was extremely tech savvy, an experienced and proficient programmer and played the roles of IT solutions an security implementer and supervisor at the company we worked at. And we handled sensitive information.

To him, relegating everything to an outside server was a dream, as removed the hassle and responsability of having to maintain, repair, replace and upgrade hardware. Everything needed should be a monitor, a keyboard and a mouse or trackball.

I would rather lower the specs of my network than rent anything from them. If in 2035 I can only afford a raspberry pi 7, so be it.