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Iranians Have Had Enough. The demonstrations erupting across the Islamic Republic reflect deep economic and political discontent. (www.theatlantic.com)

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey Atlantic Magazine, this you?

Created by The Atlantic’s marketing team and paid for by American Petroleum Institute

Bringing heat, light, and mobility to two billion additional people worldwide by 2040 – the projected increase in global population. Leading the world in natural gas and oil production. Reducing emissions to the lowest level in a generation. This is the work facing the modern natural gas and oil industry. Ten years ago, achieving these goals would have been considered monumental. Today, meeting them is just another part of the job.

Can't imagine why these guys would be excited about a "liberated" Iran.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Ah great, it's not just me pointing out this is 'murica at it again stirring up shit.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Way to ignore the very real problems of the Iranian people by employing Ad hominem against the news source. Great job!

[+] lil_biggie@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Iran’s very real problems are because of America’s economic warfare

American sanctions have nothing to do with Iran's very real lack of water. They did that to themselves with their unbridled and ignorant dam building.

Specific to economic warfare Iran has trade relationships with both China and Russia. They have the ability to trade they are just absolute dogshit at managing their economy.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The fucking theocracy in power doesn't help. Iran killed 1.500 innocent protesters during the 2022-2023 protesters and did the same in 2019 and 2009.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Like how they built a dam over a salt deposit and contaminated their water? How is this the western imperialists fault? I guess in the sense that the US allowed the current regime to rise to power.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And removes them from most of the worlds tech developments through sanctions?

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

They have access to tech about where to build dams.

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

I was adding to the end of your list.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd be pissed to if my country was experiencing major drought & the country was being sanctioned by the world's biggest superpower alliance. But they're crazy if they think the US or Israel will be kind to them. All I can hope for then is that they separate the church & state, and choose a more progressive agenda.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, are you talking about America or Iran?

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Clearly talking about Iran

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could easily be the us too

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least for now, I am still substantially better off than most people in Iran. There is substantially more rain & water where I live as well. I get what you're saying though.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd not be so quick with the use of the word "substantially". The amount of people murdered for opposing the illegitimate government is quickly equalizing.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I can agree with that part. That the current admin is doing everything they can to stipple speech including deporting people critical of their Israel first policy. Unfortunately, I still see a lot of mods on here that are pro-censorship & leftists claiming we should censor people we don't like, not realizing it will be used against them.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I'd argue that the "left"/"right" leanings are an oversimplification that no longer has a use in the complex world of today. I prefer to go with empathetic vs. egocentric. I want to live in a world of people that are empathetic and want everyone to have a good live. I do not wish to live in a world of people who only look out for themselves & then think "fuck you, I got mine".

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Careful, from a first look at news there's major misinformation spreaders around. And the protests are at least partially instigated/supported by the 'murica's lapdog & Netanyahu's bitch, prince Reza Pahlavi, and I'll have you remember that the reason the İranian people are suffering the mullahs is because they rallied behind Ayatollah Khomeini to get rid of the father of that very "prince" because he was so awful and a puppet to the then-US, credit by Kissinger (may he forever scream in anguish in hellfire). It appears the American fascist dictatorship wants to really start WW3 by stirring up shit everywhere at once.

Yes, it would be great for İranian people to get rid of the mullahs, but not to have them replaced with a fascist lapdog.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah I hope they get a strong and independent free and secular republic out of this.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Must just be Mossad stirring up discontent, right? Read that from a reliable source in a Lemmy community this morning.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't think a lot of westerners can comprehend the idea that Iranian religious conservatives might be as angry with their liberal president as expat liberals are with the Guardian Council. The county isn't going to secularize because of a drought.

Nevermind how Masoud Pezeshkian getting the Maduro treatment (or the Ismail Haniyeh treatment) summons desperately needed rain and snow.

This is a climate change disaster, but people keep talking about it like Iran's water shortage can be solved at the ballot box. Might as well try voting for the Titanic to stop sinking.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The government has mismanaged its resources for decades. It's not just about the water, but also about draconian measures towards their own citizens, while their children party abroad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The government has mismanaged its resources for decades.

"Water exists! Food exists! They're just hiding it from us!" is going to be the Big Lie of global politics as the climate crisis compounds.

That, and lots of people doing prayer circles for rain that never comes.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Building dams in rivers who do not have enough water to sustain dams might be a dumb idea. Who could have thought that putting the Revolutionary Guards in charge of Water Management would lead to catastrophe?

Take the Karun River: once the largest and only navigable river, the economic arm of the IRGC built so many dams along its course that people downstream had to be evacuated because the Karun just could not support their agriculture. The Gotvand Dam alone turned the water below it from potable water to a brine solution 5 times as salty as the Persian Gulf. The IRGC's dam construction arm, Sepahsad, was explicitly warned that this would happen.

The IRI ran headfirst into a water crisis and is now reaping the rewards. They could have made their water system more resilient to climate change by reviving the qanat systems, but that's not profitable for Sepahsad. So they didn't.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Building dams in rivers who do not have enough water to sustain dams might be a dumb idea.

Tell that to everyone managing the Colorado River Valley.

When energy is expensive and water is cheap, you make decisions differently than when the situation is reversed

The IRI ran headfirst into a water crisis and is now reaping the rewards

The IRI don't control snowfall in the Zagros. And replacing them with some Shah aligned goons won't refill the Qanat system.

[–] belastend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When energy is expensive and water is cheap

Water has never been cheap in Iran, but go on.

No, the IRI is not controlling the Snowfall in the Zagros. But it did control its water management and chose to fuck it up. The dams of Iran have massive consequences on its water budget. Once again, Sepahsad built more dams than necessary in place where dams were a net negative for the country. And they knew from the very beginning that this would be the case.

The qanat system doesn't need to be refilled, it needs to be maintained and reinstated. Same with any actual fucking protection of groundwater. Industrial run-off in Iran is treated like a nuisance at best.

No, replacing the Allah aligned ghouls with Shah aligned ghouls won't change much. Luckily, I am not advocating for shah aligned ghouls.

Getting crucial infrastructure out of the hands of a religious army might actually have positive consequences, believe it or not.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

Water has never been cheap in Iran

You're talking out your ass.

Industrial run-off in Iran is treated like a nuisance at best.

Why on earth do you think a reinstatement of the Shah would change that? Look at Iraq. Look at Syria. Look at Honduras right now. Look at Haiti.

Have any of their ecological issues improved after Western regime change went into effect?

Getting crucial infrastructure out of the hands of a religious army might actually have positive consequences

That's not what is being proposed. You're talking about changing military leadership through armed insurrection and outside intervention.

You're talking about proxy rule by Israel.

None of this improves the Iranian water reserves. None of it brings in more precipitation.