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"Yeah guys, the peasant communists who ended slavery in the mainland were definitely the Chinese equivalent of the American Confederacy." - American 'anti-capitalist'.

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[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago

Is it that difficult a concept that the remnants of the side overthrown in a civil war continued governing in Taiwan that you need to make an analogy to the us in the 1800s with "european monarchs" as guarantors?

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago

At the time the Civil War ended, Puerto Rico was still a Spanish colony. So I’m not seeing how the Spanish Bourbons would’ve been cool with the Union just up and taking their colony as a consolation prize.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Eh, it's a decent analogy. Though it would make more sense for the KMT to be the confederates at least because they lost the civil war

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is a common analogy in the ML circles. This person did the switcher to make fascist kmt seem progressive.

[–] bdazman@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit you're right. It so fucking stupid that my brain corrected it to be the right way around. Incredible.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's like this: imagine that the Empire fled to the forest moon of Endor, while the Rebel Alliance took over Tatooine

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

This analogy is actually hurting my head

[–] Boynomoder@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah "if at the end of the civil war the union fled" why are they fleeing tho?

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Even more importantly, why in the hell would the union be fleeing south?

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Harder to kill slave owners in the North

[–] abc@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In my defense of my fellow Burgerland Liberals I don't think the redditor whose username is 'Pietersielie' is an American but I get it

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's not even internally consistent : appealing to Union supporters--"wouldnt it be great if the european monarchies were backing you?"

you know, the people that wanted the confederacy to win?

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

ask the Europeans where their textile mills got their cotton

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago
[–] Krem@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No see, this analogy makes sense because A: The GMD is the older, more established party (uh by a decade or two), and B: the CPC rose up in rebellion against the former (uh, hm, after their leaders started getting arrested and hanged, and their members killed, and their peasant support base also started getting killed) so yeah since the Communists started the civil war it makes sense

[–] newacctidk@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Honestly their leaders didn't get hanged as often as beheaded. The pictures from the Shanghai uprising are horrific.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So the CPC fought for slavery?

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think @Krem@hexbear.net was being sarcastic.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

imagine that China is a burger, the people that wanted to take the burger for themselves fled and the people that wanted to share the burger with all the people stayed, also they had a school shooting to determine who got the burger.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

So anti capitalist they can’t see the parallels between the war to end American chattel slavery and the war against the Chinese landlord class

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

I recently saw (on here?) a similar analogy that used Hawaii instead of Puerto Rico.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

The funniest part is that it works the way he said it when it's switched, since the Confederacy was supported by European monarchs.