Nokia is still finish right?
this post was submitted on 05 Jan 2026
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Shiftphone is a German alternative to Fairphone
No phone could ever be worth more than $200. Change my mind.
Another 100 years of inflation will make a gumball cost more than that...
I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.
I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn't been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.
I can't use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that's because the apps require google play services for "security". Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.
I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.
I'm still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.
I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it's so much more convenient.
Could you download Google play, download the banking apps and then delete Google play? Does it matter to have Google play if you only use it for a few apps?
Not only the play store is needed. You need to install an special package with the whole of Google services, often while in recovery/download mode.
But, to answer/illustrate your question, as a matter of fact, you can install Play store apps even without Play store. Aurora store is an app that connects to the Google servers too get you the very same apks. That's when you realize, after installed the banking app, that it starts bitching about the Google services missing. "This app was designed to run with Google Play Services, and cannot operate without it". And poof, it auto closes in your face.
Google Play and Google Play Services are separate things. Google Play allows you to download apps, whereas Google Play Services provides the foundation that most apps are built to run on top of.
You can download apps from google play or equivalent stores, but google play services is built into the device.
The de-googled version of play services is microG. It provides many of the same API services for most apps, but can't do the security things that banking apps request.
But is it a problem if an app is run on google services? Like does google have access to your bank data? Do they get access to other data by having it on your phone?
They get access to A LOT of what that app does. Moreover, through Google services, a lot of ad libraries can get access to a list of all your installed apps, without even asking or informing you.
Unfortunately GrapheneOS only supports Pixels.
Buy them used to prevent the money from going to Google and donate the savings to Graphene.
I have a nothing phone 3 and very happy with it, it does everything you really want a smartphone to do, and looks stylish (imo) and has a really slick UI.
Downsides are camera is not good in low light and they push the AI stuff too hard.
And I'm not sure it quite justified the price tags when comparing it to Chinese or Samsung phones at a similar spec, but it's not way off and for me was easy to justify a slightly higher price tag for a British based design company and better repairability/rights as well as some cool features and looks.
But the price point is the one thing all these 3rd party phones suffer from, you either have to make a proper budget phone, or try and make a flagship, but will cost 20% more than a Samsung because of scale costs.
Nothing does everything. Huh
Let's not forget Crosscall. It's a french brand specializing in durable phones designed for outdoor.
does anybody have experience with the Jolla C2 Community Phone?
the price is listed as 285โฌ, which is about the maximum i'd be willing to pay for a phone. does the device work well? does it run smoothly? does the OS work well enough? (it's some custom linux-based OS with android app compatibility, they write on their website)
Hey Europe, what about you sign that partnership with Mercosul so I can buy you damn stuff without having to pay 100% taxes on the price to import?
Is it really 100%?! How much to import from the US? And China?
Yep, I took from the official gov.br website, here is the link: https://www.gov.br/receitafederal/pt-br/assuntos/aduana-e-comercio-exterior/manuais/remessas-postal-e-expressa/calculadora-versao-iii/calculadora.html
About the countries: Every country has this taxes to import, except from deals in certains products.
That why we want the deal with EU so we can buy tecnology without this shit, and sell our goods as well to get rid of depending from USA
Hereโs hoping, Brazil and Europe deserve to succeed!
Isn't Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?
Yes. It is a Chinese company with american investors with non-technical jobs in the UK to be able to claim "UK company" for marketing.
Their electronics are designed only in China, the devices are programmed only in China, their software is developed in China their technical job postings are all in China for years, their CEO ran a previous Chinese owned brand (lying/misleading about the company back then too) and has worked in the Chinese phone industry for 15 years.
Their CMF line and wearables lines are all ODM'ed through various Chinese companies (for those not aware, OEM is where something is designed by a company and manufactured by another where ODM is where everything is designed by another company and the branded company just gives requirements and some input, I worked previously for an ODM kind of company) and are generic widely-available hardware marked up for brand name recognition.
Their marketing is in the UK, that's about it.
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@RmDebArc_5 @maam this is the reality of most Western businesses. Production in China and company address in the West
Here in Sweden they started with fishing for funding and making press about being a Swedish company. It worked and they got hype. Then they moved to some UK tax haven and now they are apparently based on London.
I'm not very supportive of Nothing.
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Which has the best camera?
Any of them run Linux or fully non-google android?
Fairphone has postmarket os support.
Only FP4 has decent support. Newer models have broken features, like WiFi and audio.
This is a REALLY IMPORTANT detail.
I bought the fairphone with Murena /e/OS already installed. I can't be happier with this choice.
Ubuntu touch supports Volla
Jolla's Sailfish is Linux.
FP6 was planned to have CalyxOS available but CalyxOS got kinda fucked over when 4 of their major team left. It may come one day though. You can use iodeOS but its basically lineage with bootloader locking
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