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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 138 points 3 days ago (8 children)

How the hell can they just waltz into a country and just kidnap their leader without committing diplomatic suicide with the rest of the world?

The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime. Neatly sidesteps any pardon shenanigans they're going to attempt, given a US presidential pardon has no legal standing outside its borders.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Diplomatic suicide with the world happened many months ago, were you sleeping? Threatening Canada, Greenland, who else?

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The thing is those are all threats people involved in diplomacy can rationalise away as public image stuff and not take seriously. Like don't get me wrong, it's going to have them on alert, but it's not a bridge burning yet.

This is a physical act with no other interpretation. The US invaded a country and kidnapped its leader. This is a burnt bridge.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US invaded a country that floats on oil and with a socialist government, most Western countries would be more than happy to feast on the crumbs of the pillage of Venezuela.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The next US president should finally join the ICC and give retroactive authority to prosecute anyone associated with the current US regime.

Not gonna happen. Trump is especially blatant, but imperialism is bipartisan.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 11 points 3 days ago

Trump always said the quiet part loud.

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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 16 points 3 days ago

Sure, they should but I can't see any US president giving up their war crimes pass.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It'd be nice, but I can't see a country that has a Hague Invasion Plan to prevent any American from ever being tried by the ICC just, you know, giving that up.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Because Maduro was a pariah, same as Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein. Obviously, it's not about liberating the Venezuelan people. The US isn't even pretending this time. It's about oil and getting rich.

If you shoot a rat with a shotgun, yeah, maybe don't do that, but thanks for killing the rat. If you shoot a dog with a shotgun, that's pretty monstrous. As long as Trump takes out the worst folks, he'll get away with it.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Terrorist state. Next time anyone tells you they can't act against a head of state you can tell them to fuck off.

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yep. And he’s not going to be released. Guarantee ther will be an “accident”. He’ll fall out of an open window- in a basement.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Nah. He'll "escape", then found with two shots to the back and flayed skin. Then it'll be considered suicide.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, posted his potential concerns, reflecting a view from the right flank in the Congress. “I look forward to learning what, if anything, might constitutionally justify this action in the absence of a declaration of war or authorization for the use of military force,” Lee said on X.

YEA ME TOO! For fucking Christ’s sake. Wouldn’t that have been nice to have for the past 20 fucking years too. Maybe then we could avoid invading poorer countries to prop up “defense” stocks. There no money for schools, healthcare, housing, medicine, or food for children, but there’s a trillion fucking dollars for the military… to INVADE VENEZUELA???

Everything Trump touches, misery follows. And now, death follows him too.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 65 points 3 days ago

Mike Lee is one of the fuckers responsible for this. He has let Trump do crime and bypass congress since Trump's first term and suddenly, this is what makes him ask questions? He's just trying to cover his own ass.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

Psst, "nothing ever happens" people... This is where nothing cannot happen. I already can't believe all the times he got away with ignoring the constitution, but no matter what your political alignment is, this cannot stand. He fucking can't just bomb a country and kidnap its head of state, so that "the biggest oil companies in the world can make money" -- that's an (almost) direct quote from Trump.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago

Mike Lee throws bricks then pockets his hands.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Mike Lee is full of shit. He was not being facetious there, he's literally looking forward to receiving his talking points on how to defend this shit.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 65 points 3 days ago (49 children)

So on what stage of deflection are the "Trump and Biden/Harris are exactly the same" locals at this point? Anybody keeping track?

[–] baines@piefed.social 63 points 3 days ago

it’s the wrong time of day in russia to get an answer ask again in a few hours

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 10 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Trump didn't have the patience for a CIA-backed coup

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 3 days ago

What makes you think the CIA didn't orchestrate and activate this?

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[–] hoch@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well that escalated quickly

[–] baines@piefed.social 27 points 3 days ago (7 children)

gotta keep the deflect up from the epstein files

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If bombing civilians and kidnapping heads of state is the level of deflection we're at, then "Trump is a pedophile" could not even be the worst thing to come out of the Epstein files.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

laddies and gents we’re going back to afghanistan

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[–] brambc@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Kidnapped, not captured.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The US has liberated Venezuela. Israel is liberating Gaza. Russia is liberating Ukraine.

Imperialism speaks a singular, reality warping, language. Subjects of "democratic" nations have always thought that their state stood for something. The reality is the US has been staging coups to create faux-democratic vassal states since before any of us were born. They even staged a coup in Ukraine before Putin invaded. Can empire and a true vibrant democracy ever be compatible?

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

I think we all had 'Unjustified War with Venezuela' on our bingo cards.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

Oh my god he actually did the thing. What the hell! Holy shit I did not keep up with the news

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Locked the Nobel Peace Prize prize for this year in after outclassing the current winner's work.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Anyone who continues to support this inhuman parasite deserves nothing less than Nuremberg 2.0

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh. My. God. It is starting.

[–] baines@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

you're mixing this up with Jan 7th

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