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[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Just venting, but I straight-up don’t understand how so many developers working in gambling, FAANG, the MIC, commercial health insurance, etc. so readily pull the wool over their own eyes before eventually crashing out.

If you’re a working class person with no better way to pay the bills, that’s one thing — but from lived experience as a tech bro, these people are generally well-off white collar professionals with plenty of options. You can do something ethical that pays the bills, lets you live comfortably, travel the world and more, or you can do something obviously heinous for a ~20% marginal salary increase — and this set of nitwits pick the heinous gig every time.

Like have they never bothered to try using the services of the companies they work for? Are they too daft to recognize a dark pattern when they see it?

The only answer I see as a reliable answer is greed and money. OOP and people like them ruin my faith in humanity like nothing else.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 24 minutes ago

I think in some cases it is far more than a marginal increase. I make just $120k at one of my jobs but I could make $400k+ at a job for a company far less ethical. Hell, a guy I know hit $700k one year at Ye Olde Meta (that did include exercising options though).

The allure of being able to retire early is nice. But instead of seeking high paying jobs I just mix and match multiple low paying ones from smaller companies and achieve roughly the same thing with less stress.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Which is why I’m a backend developer/infrastructure engineer for a nonprofit organization in the area of social services.

The pay is not as good but I can look my children in the eye and tell them that I am proud of the work I do.

[–] fauxerious@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

where's your magical list of ethical companies 😂😂😂

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

As a rule of thumb, the more ethical companies are going to be smaller shops as opposed to household names, because they’re siphoning less of the economic value they produce into bloat and “hyperscaling”. Yet there are plenty such shops in every field doing quality work for clients at fair prices; they’re just not the ones making waves and catching press.

If you’re seriously looking for something though, tell me your niche or PM your CV, and I’ll see if I can’t find something reasonable.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 hours ago

They would literally make more money by job-hopping in pursuit of such a company, but you're right. Even a single team that remembers what ethics are is a big ask.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 9 points 8 hours ago

💰💸💵💶💷💴

^ this is how

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 81 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

But the thing that actually makes me sick—and the main reason I’m quitting—is the "Desperation Score." We have a hidden metric for drivers that tracks how desperate they are for cash based on their acceptance behavior.

If a driver usually logs on at 10 PM and accepts every garbage $3 order instantly without hesitation, the algo tags them as "High Desperation." Once they are tagged, the system then deliberately stops showing them high-paying orders. The logic is: "Why pay this guy $15 for a run when we know he’s desperate enough to do it for $6?" We save the good tips for the "casual" drivers to hook them in and gamify their experience, while the full-timers get grinded into dust.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 minutes ago

That's fucked, but the tip stealing 2.0 is also fucked.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I figured this out in the first few months. Any other driver I tried explaining this to called me crazy and/or a cheater. I made twice what they did in a third of the drive-time, maybe half the time in my car when you count the time I sat Available while playing on my phone, using indoor bathrooms like a human-being, napping/meditating, or stuffing my face.

Sure buddy, I'm just that jealous of your work-ethic and two-door hatch-back that's probably seen you reported dozens-of-times over. Super-hacker, liar, lazy fuck; Ya got me dead to rights.

Edit: I only drove passengers for the ride-share companies. Washing my hands enough for anything food related on an on-going basis destroys my skin, and my car is nicely climate-controlled, so ...

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 22 points 10 hours ago

the best part is, some of us drivers have largely already figured out they do this and have to pay for a second app, Maxymo, to automatically do math and see if a ride is worth a certain $/hr, and accept/decline based on this.

Every now and then, Lyft will try to goad me into accepting offers that would pay, over time, about half as much as what I normally get (Uber, unsurprisingly, always offers me less, so I don't drive for them), and I can't focus on driving and do mental math at the same time. This wouldn't be necessary if they just paid fixed rates based on distance and demand, or gave drivers control over what they want to charge for a ride like an actual contractor, but that doesn't make shareholders happy.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No one's convincing me Americans are so broke when they use apps like this. It's like the mid-price grocery down the street being bumped off by the new place, most expensive in town and 1-mile further for most people.

Now our second Aldi has moved into the mid-price store's building. Aldi's mostly empty while the most expensive store is jammed SRO. For context, this is a small redneck suburb of a poor city, not exactly bougie.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not even that broke and I don't use them. Everyone I know who does is horrible with money.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Had a 19-yo that wanted to be friends at work trying to buy me delivered food.

"Dude, no offense, but you're poor, don't even have a car and get paid minimum wage. Food delivery is bullshit."

He kept doing it anyway.

[–] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

we just purposefully delayed non-priority orders by 5 to 10 minutes to make the Priority ones "feel" faster by comparison

Isn't that how Amazon prime works?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

The main benefit of Prime is savings on shipping. Without it, Amazon's far too expensive. Maybe they slow shipping speed for regular customers, but seems like they'd shoot themselves in the foot. Who pays extra shipping and waits twice as long? In any case, if you're going to use Amazon, you're all but forced to buy Prime. Which is fine by me. I can't afford the 20-mile roundtrip to town and the extra price on other sites.

Of course this is a thread about software where people pay $40 to get cold McDonald's delivered, so maybe consumers are even dumber than I thought.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 13 points 9 hours ago
[–] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How can a programmer explain how a sausage is made? They're not chefs!

/j

[–] Kissaki@programming.dev 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just gotta close it off on both ends<===>

(parens for round ends didn't look good)

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 1 points 6 hours ago

(二二二二二)

/ Still not great I guess

Delivery services hate this one simple trick: Going out to eat/takeout.

I lolled at this comment.