I’ve always been a lid fully closed person because of animals. The water here is bad enough that the toilet tank needs water treatment pucks, and those chemicals shouldn’t be consumed by pets.

It has been such a fucking struggle with the men who visit or live with me. And it makes absolutely no sense other than just being lazy and inconsiderate.

Whenever I go to someone else’s place, I leave the lid the same way I found it, or if I can’t remember how I found it, fully closed is safest (hardly anyone gets upset by that). That’s the polite thing to do. But that’s apparently just too much for lots of dudes. They come into the home of a woman who lives alone and leave the bathroom the way they want it with zero regard for who actually lives there.

They get one talking to about it, then I start slamming the lid down behind them every time they use it, very passive aggressively. It doesn’t take them super long to figure it out, but WAY LONGER THAN IT SHOULD! If they can’t figure it out within a couple days/visits, they don’t get to be there anymore. I can’t afford emergency vet appointments for something that shouldn’t even be a problem.

I had one ex who was so inconsiderate about it for such a long time that I drew Reddit up and downvotes on the tank and lid (he was always on Reddit, so downvote on the lid, upvote on the tank), to indicate displeasure with the lid being left up. That worked, believe it or not.. in a really disgustingly childish sort of way. Depressing to have to resort to such nonsense just for a safe environment for everyone who lives there.. that dude is also why I have no patience for this shit anymore, and simply disallow people who can’t respect my home. I shouldn’t have to do that.

The lid always goes down when not in use at my house.

"It's a shit receptacle, not a water feature" has been repeated to anyone who doesn't know the rule.

I dunno why people care what position the seat & lid are in. It takes like 1 second to put it into the required configuration.

For 15 years I lived in an apartment with the bathroom shelves directly above the toilet. It's a corollary of Murphy's Law that anything dropped in the bathroom somehow will land in the toilet bowl. Hence, the lid stays closed.

The true solution is to have a device you hook up to that extracts the pee and poop from your body, wipes you down, and sends you on your way. There will be no lid, no seat, just one hole in the wall you hook up to.

I genuinely cannot understand why someone wouldn't want their seat and lid down at all times when not in use.

I don't even piss standing up anymore, but I'm still a firm believer in the concept of "it really isn't that hard to just look before you sit".

I don’t get the leaving the seat up as a male. When I flush I don’t want pee and poop particles sprayed all over the room. That’s why I use a toilet in the first place

The lid should be down before you flush.
Would you put your face 8cm above the bowl as you flush? No! Even with the lid down. Any dude who's ever pissed anywhere barefoot or in shorts knows the splash radius....

I'm a man living alone, with a cat. The seat has been down for 10 years.

We have a toddler in the house. We keep the lid down because it gives us a few extra seconds in case he slips past us into the restroom and wants to splash around.

It could also be solved by everybody always putting the seat up ...

But it won't because everybody not agreeing on one course of action is the more fundamental problem.

You're basically just saying "This disagreement could be solved if everybody would agree".

Having dogs solved the problem in my house

Oh... I'm already doing that with my wife and in any case I'm always sitting down. I thought it was more commun to do that.

I mean I always thought it was more hygenic to prevent the "splash zone"...

Why is this a debate? I'm always confused by this one and how everybody assumes it's a huge argument. Why are people annoyed at either? I don't even register what state the toilet seat is at when I arrive. I'll just adjust it based on whatever it is I need. What is the supposed annoyance at lowering (or raising) the seat? Is that not what you do before doing your business regardless? Don't you mostly leave the whole lid down anyway? Why is this such a cliche? I do not get it.

I started doing this after my roommate got upset with me because she blindly sat down and fell in. Then she got upset because she interpreted putting the lid down as passive aggressive.

That's precisely how the debate between myself any my SO was finally ended. The seat stays down now unless in use.

Yeah, I don't want splash water getting anywhere else than the bowl. Also, what if I accidentally fumble something and drop it in the water. Even if there weren't a lid, I'd put the seat down in case of a level 10 emergency

Leaving it as-is after use is the most efficient (least number of seat movements)

Have the ceramic only, no seats, and the problem's solved!