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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That's just FUD. "Don't build a Eurostack because we're too far behind". That's loser talk. GTFO

[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even smells like american lobbyism. cough corruption 

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 14 points 5 days ago

Please don't build a Eurostack, bro :'(

No competition! Pleeaaaaase!

You can't do it! It won't work!

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I think the message is the opposite. At least that's how I read it. But I might have misinterpreted, I was only skimming it.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"“Everything in cyberspace is commercial. Everything is in private hands,” he said. De Bruycker, who has led the CCB since its creation a decade ago, stressed that this dependence does not constitute a “major security problem” for the EU. "

Everyone stop listening to this clown.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

No, listen! He tells us what the EU is.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No, we actually lost an information war decades ago and so we now get flooded by bullshit constantly.

And so everytime Europe does any small movement towards independent infrastructure stories pop up by the dozen (as if it wasn't obviously coordinated) about how it's all impossible, everything is lost and would also cost an insanillion € to build...

And the small minority of organisations and businesses actually interest in indepencence (and not heavily ~~bribed~~ lobbied by US big tech) just do it. While the majority still tries to scam people with US clouds licensed by EU companies as an EU solution.

[–] tehsillz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

They sold our electrical power, our nature, our data and our freedom to the richest people in the world

[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wonder (without having a clue about the subject) what would happen if "private clouds" like NAS were incentivized, with subsidies for example. I don't know if it would be an energy disaster or something like that, but I think breaking the dominance of big tech over that would be great.

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Not quite the same thing, but have you had a look at IPFS or Hyphanet?

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Europe does not need a cloud infrastructure to be competitive on the internet, we lost that battle years ago and we know it. What Europe needs is "onlt" a cloud infrastructure for governmental data and critical private sectors like arms producers.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

IMO, that's the wrong attitude. With a president as wonky as Tramp, it only makes sense for companies to protect themselves from addle-brained decisions that could shutdown their entire business. Imagine a tax on cloud computing imposed by the US on foreign companies. The wrong side of the bed could one day beckon and that's all it could take.

Sudden changes like the aforementioned could bring in a lot of money into European tech and that could definitely grow to compete with US tech. Europe has a large economy and many affluent citizens compared to the rest of the world.