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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 105 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I always wonder, if I'm like experiencing extreme privilege or something, in that I'm able to write words to express what I want to say.

Like, I don't know, I've got a colleague who's probably got dyslexia and also sometimes struggles with how to word things in English. I can understand that he finds it useful for that.

But personally, I always think that if I would've wanted it to be written differently, I would've written it differently. I do not want a machine to put words into my mouth, because they will inevitably be different from what I wanted to say.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 66 points 4 days ago (6 children)

at work we are recommended to put things through AI to sound more ⚡️E X E C U T I V E ⚡️🔥🔥🔥🤙

so you do something like, "Got new images from design" and it'll rephrase to "Aligned on tactical operations with communications dept and successfully launched adoption of new collateral"

It's been eye-opening to see how much "leadership" is just "heavily reword simple things into complicated language to make them sound more impressive"

[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago

It's been eye-opening to see how much "leadership" is just "heavily reword simple things into complicated language to make them sound more impressive"

I've been thinking this for years. After I manage to descramble management's latest directives into something comprehensible I like to break it down in team meetings so we can all make fun of it together.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We have an AI tool that is apparently supposed to improve the tone of voice and shorten messages. It turns my short sentence into a paragraph with a bunch of pointless extra words.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Did you also struggle to get up to the word/paragraph/page count on essays in school?

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[–] Morphite88@thelemmy.club 13 points 4 days ago

I learned this reading Dilbert years ago, no AI needed heh

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

You left out "yet vague and unaccountable."

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Oh man, I think I'd turn violent, if I was asked to do that. I need to communicate to convey information, not obfuscate it in absolute wankery.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I find it useful for when I have to respond to a communication and all I want to say is invective and a curse-laden rant about what a fucking poorly thought out terminal prolapse of an idea that particular thing would be, and I can ask it to reword my arguments in a professional manner that won't get me either fired or committed to supervisory care.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

I can never write what I intend to say. I'm never really sure of my intent when I sit down to write so that probably has a lot to do with it. I also don't want a machine to write it for me.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I am one of those people that prior to AI I used the thesaurus for absolutely everything and reworded things a million times myself. Words just slip my mind often and I can never get my intent quite down the first time. I don't know if it's because I'm a non-native speaker or I just overthink things.

It does help for that sometimes, but honestly the stuff it writes just sounds so AI I end up changing it again to sound more like myself anyway. I only really use it for work to cut down on the 3 hours it would've taken me to write an email.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's an immense privilege that in first world countries all people theoretically have the right to obtain. That's one of the purposes of general education, but through a lot of failures between schools, parents, students, and society at large it's become less universal than it should be.

"Why do I have to keep writing pointless essays about stupid books?" Because you need to be able to interpret a text and communicate clearly in the written word, and these are both harder than it seems. Furthermore, it's often the students who haven't gotten it yet that complain the most. I know I did. I wasn't just frustrated with the books I didn't like or the long hours writing, I was frustrated with how I struggled to really understand how to write naturally and effectively.

And I should add, I'm both (mildly) dyslexic and dyscalcic. I write fairly well if I do say so myself, and I'm an engineer, so these aren't insurmountable challenges

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Outlook always suggests I delete and add words because the way I wrote things is “incorrect”, but their suggestions are, to my mind, objectively worse and communicate my thoughts poorly. Over time Microsoft is gaslighting me to think my grammar is terrible.

I’m with you. I wouldn’t appreciate someone standing over my shoulder trying to guess every word I’m about to write, so why would I tolerate that from a word processor? Maybe we are in the minority, but I take care to pick words and phrases that fit what I want to convey. Having a machine assume it can know what’s in my mind better than I do is nonsense.

there is something in between my brain and my mouth that stops words from reaching my mouth occasionally (i think it's called aphasia) and if you're patient and give me a few minutes i can write a sentence that sounds professional and has all the right words. If i gotta dash of fifty of them in a minute i'm going to sound like an inebriated clown who is speaking their third language. some might be poetic, some might be funny, but they're going to be all over the place as i try to remember what that thing that makes the hard crunchy cold drink stuff tasty drink fuck whats it ICE YES FINALLY SHUT UP

we play the hand we're glorped

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe dyslexia can cause that (dunno, I’m not a psych or dyslexic), but anecdotally my dyslexic teacher never seems to have problems wording or explaining things more than any other person. It’s just really obvious when she’s reading aloud from something and starts tripping and mixing up words, and her handouts have weird typos and autocorrect issues that she didn’t see. But she is extremely vocally opinionated on some high level topics, haha.

But I hear the sentiment you’re saying, for people that genuinely do struggle to express the sentiment they’re wanting to convey, I’m sure it’s helpful. I guess the question is, are (general) you doing it because you can’t do it yourself or because you want instant gratification? The process of articulating your thoughts is an important part of understanding them more thoroughly, and that ability will atrophy just due to how brains work if you stop doing it.

Hell, there’s even middle ground here. Set an amount of time to spend on it and really, genuinely try to write it. Even if it’s nothing but bullet point ideas. Then after spending that time struggling, if it’s not usable (just usable! Not perfect!) then send it through the AI, if (general) you must.

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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are at least a dozen countries around the world where less than half of residents would be able to read your post no matter what language it was translated into. Which is to say basic literacy, [which should be] a human right, is apparently a privilege in today's world.

Then what you're talking about goes beyond that to a strong command of the language—definitely an awesome power :) we are lucky to be able to do this. (usually, for me, and there’s usually some technological/social bridge for exceptions)

all the data i am finding seems to report north korea at 100% literacy. i'm no propagandist, but i know propaganda when i see it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago

What if Clippy cost the GDP of Argentina?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago
[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Would you like me to take what you've written and suck the humanity out of it?

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Surely this reply to your masterful comment was written by a moist human! Bleep bloop.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Hmmm, moist human.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 49 points 4 days ago (4 children)

someone should tell her about libreoffice

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 64 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’ve tried but Emma Thompson refuses my calls and never responds to my emails.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

You might have better luck going through here agent

https://www.hamiltonhodell.co.uk/talent/emma-thompson/

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’m trying but going from the ribbon interface I’ve been using since 2006 to the pre-ribbon interface feels like a time warp, in a bad way.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm old... i remember when everyone absolutely abhorred the ribbon interface.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

Still hate it here!

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, the OSS Office apps are so ugly and painful to use after using MS Office for over a decade. Really reminds me about how much I hated using MS Office before the redesigned UI.

(Really hoping to trigger Cunningham's Law on this one)

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sweet. Anyone recently install this for the first time?:

I’d think the installer could ask if the user is most familiar with Microsoft products or whatever, then confirm which interface will be defaulted as a result.

Would have to create an issue or something for this eh

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago

Not in the Settings for some reason.

Thank you, that’s very helpful.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago

It’s sorta typical of the OSS community. Engineers aren’t designers and it would seem that UI designers are either not as interested in OSS as engineering types or they’re squeezed out by curmudgeonly engineers.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

that's so funny to hear, all I've been hearing from linux users for the last forever is how much they hate the ribbon!

Ephere below mentioned you can change it to a tabbed interface here: https://books.libreoffice.org/en/WG252/WG2521-UserInterfaceVariants.html#toc6

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[–] Foni@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's an insult to Clippy. At least Clippy tried to be useful. These LLMs don't even try.

[–] Naho_Zako@piefed.zip 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Not old enough to actually havd any experience with clippy (I think the earliest Windows UI I ever touched was XP, but that was made before i was born lol), but at least Clippy was local and didn't steal your data right? Even if he was useless he could be turned off and didn't stalk you.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, Clippy existed at a time where your computer wasn't expected to be connected to the internet 24/7.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@piefed.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Which is the only reason why Clippy didn't steal your data. If it could have, it would have.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nah. In the 1990s personal data wasn't valuable to Microsoft because they weren't selling advertising at the time.

Clippy was there only to sell more copies of office.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 7 points 4 days ago

Instead people installed BonziBuddy, which did all the stealing and stalking.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Two9A@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

A recent episode of Colbert's Late Show; I remember seeing this segment, should be on the YouTube page.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't use word then, it's so shit.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

[off topic]

https://youtu.be/0unUwpCfRg0

Emma Thompson as a private detective.

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[–] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Just bring it round to Stephen Fry's house and he'll rewrite it for you.

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