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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

who ever j.g_rubel is, they just made their kids stupider. this guy is raising uneducated ignorant children. cant be helped when j.g_rubel is uneducated as well.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's awesome how stupid people who have no education can spread their thoughts. /s

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

And their genes, don't forget that this guy successfully manipulated his contribution to the generation into believing socialism is when capitalism. Likely on their way to being a part of MAGA.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

Ah yes, the famous socialist concept of ultra rich CEOs and shareholders. Damn you, Karl! We could have lived in a capitalist utopia if you didn't invent that cancer.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

In communism, the people do all of the work and the government and kleptocrats take all of the benefit.

I'm capitalism, the people do all of the work and the oligarchs and plutocrats take all of the benefit.

In socialism, the people do all if r work and the people take all of the benefit.

I chose socialism.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Communism definitionally does not have a government.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I prefer to imagine the people and the government are one in the same. It's an easier leap

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world -5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, and yet westerners blasted with anti-communism propaganda 24/7 seem to believe that communism is something which it isn't. Shocking, I know.

[–] biggeoff@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that argument literally a meme? No true Scotsman and all that

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. Nobody in their right mind claim that any country has achieved communism. For now it is just a utopic idea of how humanity could exist post-capitalism.

What has been achieved by some countries to varying degrees is socialism (worker ownership on the means of production via a centralised economy).

[–] biggeoff@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Makes sense, thx

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

To call something communism requires advanced "productive forces" (industry/energy/automation) that will enable advanced "production relations" (property/capital/opportunity) where everyone will do what they can and will use as much as they need. The USSR and all so-called communist states were underdeveloped countries where "productive forces" were at a very low level and it was not possible for them to have "communist production relations". They were autocratic kleptomaniac states, nothing more. The closest example of a communist society is Star Trek. That's how far humanity is from communism. Today it seems like a utopia, but I suppose that to people who lived in the year 750, the possibility of free movement, choice of representatives, choice of work, opportunity for education seemed like a utopia

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

USSR and all so-called communist states

Nobody in their right mind would claim USSR had achieved communism. It did achieve socialism to some extent.

USSR was ruled by a communist party, i.e. a party striving to achieve communism. Lenin postulated that in order to achieve communism (stateless, classless, moneyless society), first one has to achieve world-wide socialism (worker ownership on means of production via a state-managed centralized economy), and then transition by withering away the state. Stalin reduced the ambition to just "socialism in a single country", with the goal of eventually achieving communism at some later date. This was the prevalent ideology of CPSU until the dissolution.

underdeveloped countries where “productive forces” were at a very low level

Based on what? USSR had many great technical achievements, and the industrial base was pretty good at the time too. Planned economy tended to not focus on consumer stuff (which was a mistake in some ways), but industrial&military production was on par with the west if not better.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml -4 points 6 hours ago

you're gonna wake the tankies

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 51 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In any case talking in this way to kids is basically indoctrination as they don't have the resources to fully understand.

A dad should teach them universal values such as understanding and compassion and when they'll be adult they can choose for their own. The problem for these people is that if you teach compassion to your children it's unlikely they'll turn out to be Maga as their parent.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

another problemcis - to teach something, you should know / understand it first.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

Shitty people raise shitty people.

That's where the introspection and emotional work (and therapy) we should all be doing as adults comes in. To unlearn the (childhood/generational) traumas that we picked up from our parents, friends, and society and try to become better people.

But that shit is hard and uncomfortable to actually do, thought terminating cliches and bigotry are easy, so here we are.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

None of this is socialism or capitalism.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

man, these oversimplifications got out of hand.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 7 hours ago

I thought the capitalism part was the threat of wrongdoing if not giving up resources to those making the threat.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 17 hours ago

Ignorance is loud, what’s new

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

Ah the wonders of capitalism. That being Ignorance

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 83 points 21 hours ago

There's sharing resources and then there's being a dick.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 hours ago

socialism is when you give your neighbor's kids some halloween candy and then you redistribute them to each of the kids on your block.

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