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Socialism is when capitalism (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by K1nsey6@lemmy.world to c/latestagecapitalism@lemmy.world

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[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 98 points 4 months ago

There's sharing resources and then there's being a dick.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In any case talking in this way to kids is basically indoctrination as they don't have the resources to fully understand.

A dad should teach them universal values such as understanding and compassion and when they'll be adult they can choose for their own. The problem for these people is that if you teach compassion to your children it's unlikely they'll turn out to be Maga as their parent.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

another problemcis - to teach something, you should know / understand it first.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 months ago

Shitty people raise shitty people.

That's where the introspection and emotional work (and therapy) we should all be doing as adults comes in. To unlearn the (childhood/generational) traumas that we picked up from our parents, friends, and society and try to become better people.

But that shit is hard and uncomfortable to actually do, thought terminating cliches and bigotry are easy, so here we are.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's awesome how stupid people who have no education can spread their thoughts. /s

[–] Zink@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago

What sucks is that they are really good at spreading it because they speak very confidently.

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[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 4 months ago

Ignorance is loud, what’s new

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This guy's speech comes out of a premise so moronic that any answers trying to correct it will only lead to a moronic conversation.

I mean, the guy thinks socialism is about stealing candy... What kind of conversation can you infer from that?

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Ah yes, the famous socialist concept of ultra rich CEOs and shareholders. Damn you, Karl! We could have lived in a capitalist utopia if you didn't invent that cancer.

[–] DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

j.g_rubel = Russian Troll Farm account 22728728273 on X.

I cannot wait to watch Musk wear a blindfold while his sentence is read VERY LOUD to him. It WILL happen.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure people said the same about the robber barons a century ago. Sadly they all died of old age surrounded by luxury. I'd like to think justice has caught up a bit, but... well, ruthless rich fucks have been dying of old age in luxury for a long time.

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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

man, these oversimplifications got out of hand.

[+] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (13 children)

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago (26 children)

Communism definitionally does not have a government.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

To call something communism requires advanced "productive forces" (industry/energy/automation) that will enable advanced "production relations" (property/capital/opportunity) where everyone will do what they can and will use as much as they need. The USSR and all so-called communist states were underdeveloped countries where "productive forces" were at a very low level and it was not possible for them to have "communist production relations". They were autocratic kleptomaniac states, nothing more. The closest example of a communist society is Star Trek. That's how far humanity is from communism. Today it seems like a utopia, but I suppose that to people who lived in the year 750, the possibility of free movement, choice of representatives, choice of work, opportunity for education seemed like a utopia

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

USSR and all so-called communist states

Nobody in their right mind would claim USSR had achieved communism. It did achieve socialism to some extent.

USSR was ruled by a communist party, i.e. a party striving to achieve communism. Lenin postulated that in order to achieve communism (stateless, classless, moneyless society), first one has to achieve world-wide socialism (worker ownership on means of production via a state-managed centralized economy), and then transition by withering away the state. Stalin reduced the ambition to just "socialism in a single country", with the goal of eventually achieving communism at some later date. This was the prevalent ideology of CPSU until the dissolution.

underdeveloped countries where “productive forces” were at a very low level

Based on what? USSR had many great technical achievements, and the industrial base was pretty good at the time too. Planned economy tended to not focus on consumer stuff (which was a mistake in some ways), but industrial&military production was on par with the west if not better.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

The USSR and all so-called communist states were underdeveloped countries where “productive forces” were at a very low level and it was not possible for them to have “communist production relations”.

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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In communism, the people do all of the work and the government and kleptocrats take all of the benefit

This is empirically and demonstrably false. You've been lied to. Example: USSR, an Actually Existing Socialist state (what you call communism):

As for who was this top 10% and top 1%, the highest paid people were actually highly trained personnel like university professors, prominent artists, researchers, etc.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

huh... i wonder what happened in the early 90s that made those lines go weewoo

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

Ah the wonders of capitalism. That being Ignorance

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wish all these clowns would actually learn what socialm is..

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