Mice are using us to make themselves immortal. 😱
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let's be honest, if we create an immortality serum and give it to a mouse, that mouse won't be immortal, it'll be dissected after a few years to check the insides.
immortal does not necessarily mean invulnerable
I assumed medical kind of immortality, not magic. obviously that mouse is dead for the autopsy, I am not assuming the mouse will remain alive while they are being chopped up, and will outlive the heat death of the universe
sure but a biologically immortal mouse being dead for an autopsy doesnt make it not immortal
you do not want absolute immorality. worse form of torture imaginable
there are certainly worse forms of torture imaginable
Doubt it, and if you have something to suggest it would be infinitely worse if you include absolute immortality.
so then its a modifier, but simply being immortal is not the worst form of torture imaginable. being kept alive while your skin is peeled off and then grafted back on and peeled off for example would be undoubtedly worse torture than simply being immortal. gg moving the goal posts tho
i disagree, it might be fun the first few billion years if human civilization manages to prevail and expand into the stars. wait till the heat death of the universe, then an eternity of nothing but your mind.
and that's assuming your will get used to the pain of existing in the frozen vacuum of space.
do not underestimate eternity.
so you disagree that simply being inmortal is the worst form of torture imaginable even though you said that any other torture + being immortal would be worse lmao
by itself absolute immorality is a worse torture than anything that doesn't include absolute immortality. not sure if you want to count it as a modifier or as a torture in itself.
I think at this point we're just arguing semantics, and arguing semantics is also a form of torture
youre torturing me that you cannot see that what you said is provably false and you even said as much. the worst form of torture imaginable is decidedly not immortality lmao i can imagine so much worse shit than that
The amount of suffering when you spend the first Googleplex years in complete dark vacuum will likely be worse than whatever you can imagine.
nope i can imagine the first googleplex years worse than just existing for those. for example, spending them trying to explain to you how easy it is to imagine something worse. or spending them feeling unimaginable pain the entire time while unable to "get used to" the pain
are you saying that punishment will only last a googleplex years? what about the following googleplex times you do nothing but feel the vacuum of space for a googleplex years? better to only spend that time suffering then not exist anymore than exciting forced
it will get googleplex to the power of googleplex worse every second for eternity. times a million. for a million eternities times infinite googleplex eternities. and for every eternity it will get twice as bad in half the amount of time, halving the amount of time for it to double after every doubling
Some lab animals escape, notable ones are octopi. They are also known to kill their handler (abusive ones, anecdotally)
Wonder how long until pharma says this won't work. Cancer is big business. They'll never cure it...just find a way to manage it.
Great news if you're a mouse!
true, not so great if you are a frog i guess
Could be one of those "Yes, but..." memes lol
When can us plebes have it?
You can have it right now. Just go out and find a frog. Open it's stomach and rub is content on your cancer region. Simple really.
it has to be injected into veins, so do a injection dose (/s just in case)
I've probably read about hundreds of treatments that cure small animals like mice and frogs. Wake me when that s*** is proven on humans
I'm 54. Cancer was a death sentence when I was young. Cures? LOL, how about detection? Forget it. You weren't getting diagnosed until it was way too late. And we had jack shit for medicine once we caught it.
In the 90s magazines used to publish articles about a "silver bullet" for cancer. Exactly the sort of thing you're talking about. We collectively woke up and realized there would never be such a thing. LOL, the articles stopped overnight. :)
Remember working with a guy in 1993 whose skin was hideous with skin cancer. Haven't seen such a human since. Skin cancer was a pretty big deal a couple of decades ago. People regularly died of it. Now it seems mostly beaten. Haven't heard of a person dying from skin cancer this century.
I suspect a tiny spot on my face is cancer. My body seems to have mostly beaten it. But if it ever grows again, I know they can zap it with a simple outpatient procedure. That sort of thing could have been the beginning of the end when I was a child.
Don't get me wrong, I'd personally shit bricks if the doc found even minor cancer, but at least I'd have a chance in 2025.
Telling public figures to stay in their lane is not reductive. It is a shorthand for recognizing limits of expertise and influence. Encouraging better perspectives is ideal, but it is not always effective when harm or misinformation is already happening. Clear boundaries sometimes need to come first before nuance can land.
I also recognize freedom of speech, which means both person X and I are free to run our mouths.
We have hundreds of more treatments, there are hundreds (thousands?) of cancer variants, and every year we get more and better treatments. It's a slow but steady march
We are though all the time. You have to remember that cancer isn't a single disease but a broad category of diseases, and treatments vary.
Sounds promising!
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