Download all existing literature to build a library for preservation and you're called a pirate. Download all existing literature from aforementioned library to train an LLM and you're a tech innovator. What a strange world we live in.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

If we're pirates then they're privateers, and I know which I respect less.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hey let's create our own LLM or something that can pass as an LLM😏 maybe then we can get away with the pirating

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Are you rich? Otherwise we'll still be arrested.

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[–] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

As an artist I'm very happy to see my work archived in there. Any suggestions where I can submit my music directly to archives.

[–] gnawmon@ttrpg.network 26 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know about Anna's Archive but I suggest uploading it to Internet Archive.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

You could provide a torrent of it directly.

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[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

However, these existing efforts have some major issues:

Over-focus on the most popular artists. There is a long tail of music which only gets preserved when a single person cares enough to share it. And such files are often poorly seeded.

Later...

We primarily used Spotify’s “popularity” metric to prioritize tracks. View the top 10,000 most popular songs in this HTML file (13.8MB gzipped).

I must be kinda stupid, but it sounds to me like there's some double speak. "Only popular music gets preserved, so we preserved music by popularity"

[–] Lojcs@piefed.social 55 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, the 10k is just a sample. The true amount is 86 million, about a quarter of all Spotify songs.

Put another way, for any random song a person listens to, there is a 99.6% likelihood that it is part of the archive. We expect this number to be higher if you filter to only human-created songs. Do remember though that the error bar on listens for popularity 0 is large.

For popularity=0, we ordered tracks by a secondary importance metric based on artist followers and album popularity, and fetched in descending order.

We have stopped here due to the long tail end with diminishing returns (700TB+ additional storage for minor benefit), as well as the bad quality of songs with popularity=0 (many AI generated, hard to filter).

Also it sounds like they had difficulty scraping some of the less popular songs and got them from somewhere else.

[–] TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It'd probably be more beneficial to read the article directly from Anna's Archive where they display plenty of graphs and infographics to make the data understandable. Unfortunately this article has none of that. The "over-focus on popular artists" is quite literally meaning they're only missing artists who aren't being listened to, most of which are probably AI anyway.

https://annas-archive.li/blog/backing-up-spotify.html

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

want the link just so i can know how to avoid it i'm a good girl who does't steal totally.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 41 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

https://annas-archive.org/blog/backing-up-spotify.html

[–] baka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago

You forgot to administer head pats

[–] SqueakySpider@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I like that billboard linked directly to it

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Ngl, it pisses me off that number 4 on the Top 10,000 list is "Clean Baby Sleep White Noise (Loopable)"

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Most people still don’t know that their phones most likely already has a noise generator build in without any extra app (at least on iOS)

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which app is that? (I have an iPhone)

[–] xistera@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s in the accessibility settings. You can just search your phone for Background Sounds.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 15 points 2 weeks ago

You can then also add it as a button to control center. Or create a shortcut if you want to have it on your Lockscreen or Home Screen.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Neat! Thanks!

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't exist on Android but highly recommend Atmosphere

One time cost and you can make your own "scene". You want owls hooting near a stream with cars whizzing by, and a vacuum in the other room? You got it!

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There was an app called Taomix on Android, where you could add sounds on the screen around a marker and the volume of the sounds would vary according to the distance between sound and the marker.

Like you could place a windchime near the marker and birds chirping or a river stream sound a little further away. You could always have new combinations, so that sounds weren't repetitive.

You could then swipe the marker with a push and it would bounce around the screen creating a dynamic sound like passing through a stream or birds singing on your walk.

Then it got bought out by a company and they made a new version with sounds as an in-app purchase, while the previous app was a single purchase.

Then I stopped using it.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

Cool people made cool thing! -> awful people made cool thing awful

Idk exactly what comes next for us nor when, but for fuck's sake WHATEVER we do next has gotta get rid of this goddamn shit.

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[–] TrillianAstra@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better noise is hard to compress so it costs Spotify more I imagine

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago

How long can whitenoise go before it repeats? Or vice versa, how short?

If it's only 5seconds it can be played alot..

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a good thing honestly, fuck Spotify it ruined music as much as any single company/service could.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not as much as Ticketmaster. I would love to be able to see shows, but I'd soon chew my tongue off than buy their nonsense, and fuck their affiliates too. When people stop buying this shit we can solve the problem.

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[–] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sadly there will be no King Gizzard in this archive.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 24 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure about that. They only recently removed their music from Spotify and this archive certainly took a good while to create.

[–] hanke@feddit.nu 7 points 2 weeks ago

I bought all of their albums on Bandcamp for $1 when they had a deal going.That was to good to pass up.

Also got a couple albums on vinyl 🤟

Feels good to have sent some money they way after they dared to ditch Spotift 🙏

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How much of that music is AI generated slob?

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

A lot of it probably.

They have a breakdown of the data on their blog. If you scroll down to album releases by date, you can see a very sharp uptick in releases, with around ~2 million albums in 2019 to ~11 million albums in 2024.

They even make a comment on it likely being inflated by AI:

If we group albums by release year, we see that more and more new music is added to Spotify, a lot of it likely automatically generated: [...] The amount of procedurally and AI generated content makes it hard to find what is actually valuable.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You should watch this video:

The dark side of Spotify from Slightly Sociable.

It's about short AI music created for phone farms to steal royalties away from real artists. It's a whole business model and Spotify encourages this malicious practice as all those phones use premium to earn money faster, and 33% of that money goes to Spotify. Plus they do other illegal stuff like promote music from stake holder companies over other music.

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[–] emotional_soup_88@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not that I can help out much with my already full measly 16TB of SSDs...

Anyway, noice!

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why so much SSD storage? Just get SSD's for you OS and games etc and get HDD's, maybe put them in a NAS. Much cheaper that SSD's. You don't need the speed for data storage.

[–] emotional_soup_88@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Thanks, I know, I'm not new to the game. I just had prioritize absolute silence over cost/performance, since I live in 30 m2 and I can't stand the otherwise sweet buzzing of HDDs. I need absolute silence to be able to sleep, so I bought four 4TB Samsung 870 EVOs.

I am however planning to build an HDD rack with a RPi, which I then intend to keep in one of my closets in order to isolate the sound. For now, I have cages for eight. :)

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just suspend overnight, it's what I do when drives or fans annoy me.

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