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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago

I knew they would release the files edited to cover up for the pedo Republicans... but I also knew they would be so stupid that they would mess up the cover up.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think anyone who thinks that it's not yet obvious how they cover Donny up until now, is lying to themselves. Voidzilla/coffezilla does an amazing videos on this topic. But again, it's not surprising slightly, since it's Donny we talking about.

[–] geekwithsoul@piefed.social 218 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Nixon was forced to resign because of deleting just under 19 minutes of audio tape. Meanwhile Droopy Don is engaging in a cover up that dwarfs that, and the GOP (and much of the media) is letting him get away with it.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

Your a STUPID Libtard! Donald Trump is Covering up CHILD RAPE! That's DIFFERENT! It's NOT bad!

-Republicans who show up ARMED to Schools to Save The Children!

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nixon was a flower girl next to these crooks!

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago

There’s no letting, they are actively helping and supporting him in the cover up.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

When half our politicians are one party or the other, there is no room to distance themselves from scandal. This will keep happening until we fix our system.

Lots of “surface” issues, never anything to fix the underlying framework.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 95 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Fox News was created on the premise of prevenr9ng what happened to Nixon from happening again.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

Glad I'm not the only one who gets those random num9 from phone typing.😉

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. Depending on what you believe, there were still going to be 15 Senators that were going to vote for acquittal. And that's at the very end of things. I'm not sure, but I bet those were all Republicans.

Republicans were seething over Nixon's resignation for decades after. Those that were around back then probably still are.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

The South still seethes over their civil war loss, so I totally believe they're still seething over this.

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago

Fox news was created to prevent another Watergate by being a right wing mouthpiece capable of muddying waters, distracting through misdirection, outright lying, and pushing right wing talking points.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon though, so that means that Watergate is okay to replicate, right?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And biden drug his feet on prosecuting trump after jan 6th. It's bullshit.

[–] goldfndr@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Merrick Garland not Biden.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Biden can direct them. Just like the turnip is doing.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Not just letting him- HELPING him.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 131 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The dumb part of this story is not that they're trying to cover it up

The dumb part is that America just accepts it all as a cover up and won't bother doing anything about it.

If any other president before had done any of this .... the country would have erupted .... but the US has become so complacent and apathetic to this orange menace that it's become an authoritarian nation not ruled by force but by the adject stupidity and complacency of the entire country.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I wish people understood how vast and separated the United States is. Even within cities. Getting an uprising here would be a monumental task. It's hopeless. We're done.

I am working on moving to my girlfriend's hometown in Mexico. I'm over caring.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm working on my exit strategy as well. While I agree that things in the U.S. are going to get much worse, everything is cyclical and there will be a time in the distant future when the U.S. gets its shit together again. The sad irony is that all of this is self-inflicted. None of this had to happen. All of the suffering so far, and the mass suffering that is going to occur as a consequence of a world superpower going rogue and then collapsing could have been avoided.

I'm a GenXer, and I feel fortunate to have been born and lived during what is now looking like "peak America". I've known nothing but peace and prosperity. Sure, there have been "wars" and "recessions" in my lifetime, but they have been relatively minor and not had a major impact on my life. The changes being wrought now by corrupt leadership supported by ignorant and malevolent people are destroying the very foundations of what made the U.S. great, and will inevitably result in the collapse of the greatest superpower the planet has seen so far. It's heartbreaking.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm a X-Millennial cusp, landing on the X side of the fence. It is so wild to think about how insanely great the late 80s to late 90s were. Incidentally, I think 9/11 is when the switch flipped. I remember yelling about how the Patriot Act would end us.

It seems that it did.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Incidentally, I think 9/11 is when the switch flipped.

Also X-Millenial cusper. 9/11 probably eould not have happened if the Brook Brothers' riot had not been allowed to stop ballot counting and the subsequent SCOTUS ruling handed the presidency to Bush.

We never got Gore as a president but we've had gore to spare since George HW Bush took office.

I'm even more inclined to say this goes back to the Business Plot and Prescott Bush. Prescott's son, George Bush, would become head of the CIA before he was Ronald Reagan's vice president.

It likely goes even further back than that; the Bush and Walker families have had Nazi ties for generations. Timeline of Treason: The Bush Family Connections To The Nazis

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I think we can keep going back to the failure of reconstruction.

MAGA has a direct lineage from the slave holding CSA, to segregationists, southern strategy, moral majority, up through the Tea Party, the direct precursor of MAGA

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[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly though, “greatest superpower the planet has seen so far” is already an argument to be had. China is really fucking powerful with their command economy.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China does have a large economy, but it's military might so far isn't even close to the U.S.. For example, when it comes to power projection, the U.S. has 20 carriers vs. China's 7. Give it time and the ever-changing nature of warfare, and China may well eclipse the U.S. militarily, but as it stands now I'd say the U.S. military is much more powerful than China's.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Size is one matter, but technology is another worth pointing out. China has an economy that complements technological capacity in ways that the average American isn’t ready to comprehend. From what I understand, they were able to convert their phone companies to car companies on command. They can have an idea today, and a production line tomorrow. Who knows what a wartime China economy could produce?

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The US is "too big to fail", and therefore shouldn't exist as it currently is.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Majority of America's wealthy are in his pockets. As they have profited from his inside stock market crashes and other tariff wars. Musk himself got to dig all of the America's files and silence the competition. Anyone who wasn't with them is taken care of either with money or threats of taking their wealth away. Donny is basically Putin. That's why they vibe together so much. Except Putin has an actual balls to do when he says and Donny is just a crook that has a pussy.

[–] politicalincorruption@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Explain what people are supposed to do. The largest US protest in history happened during the No Kings protest in October. Until the stock market crashes and everyone is fucked don’t expect people to violently rise up against him.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 41 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Everyone gets all bent out of shape when I say this, but those kinds of "yell at concrete buildings" protests are absolutely worthless when the government doesn't give a shit about what you think.

The only thing that will get anyone to do anything is threatening wealth. We need a general strike, and not this "oh how does 2028 sound" b.s strikes people are planning... We need one immediately, not planned for years and years ahead...

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 21 points 2 days ago

Yeah I was listening to a smart sounding guy on a podcast, an expert on authoritarian regime changes. He was saying change can only really happen when the oligarchs become dissatisfied.

The stench on dear leader needs to become so bad that the oligarchs start to actually hurt.

The tariffs might have reduced their profits to some extent, but they probably consider it to be temporary, and effecting everyone more or less equally. They're happy to weather that storm because they're not losing position on the wealthy and powerful ladder, and in the long run they'll get some carve outs and hand outs if they haven't already.

You'll notice though, in April when the tarriff "war" was really getting going, someone had a word to Trump and said enough is enough and he had to step back.

Smart podcast guy said it didn't take much of the population to hurt oligarchs. As in a dedicated change in behavior from as few as 3% of the population could make a difference. The thing is I don't really believe Americans have that in them. For example, you need 3% of people who regularly use facebook and buy things from Amazon to stop doing those things permanently.

The protests in May were like: "do your shopping on Tuesday and Thursday but not Wednesday, unless you really need something and then it's ok. This will really communicate our general feeling of discontent to people working at the checkout."

I just looked it up and the guy was Dr. Jack Goldstone on ologies podcast: https://www.alieward.com/ologies/revolutionology

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

Everyone seems to forget that sociopolitical change requires multiple fronts.

Protests are absofuckinglutely required even if they don't appear to enact change directly or immediately. They serve multiple purposes in a comprehensive strategy that is built on coalition and education.

They simply aren't big enough yet. Start there.

[–] blackbearjesus27@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Absolutely agreed re: your points but I’d argue some of it IS working.

How many GOP members have broken with trump recently? And House leadership? How many folks are actually not even running for office next year because they can see the writing on the wall?

It’s not nearly enough based on what he’s done and what he wants to do, absolutely. But for someone as recently as early this year appeared to have an iron lock on his party approaching lame duck status nearly a year ahead of time and before any votes have been counted in the midterms IS progress.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The rich got pretty antsy when everyone just stayed home during covid.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

I'm so fucking fed up with the victim blaming.

[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

I think that the country is getting to a boiling point. 2026 is going to be an interesting year.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I mean doesn't that break the law?

Everything had to be released, I'm pretty sure at the very least, unreleasing what was already released is pretty black & white

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 68 points 2 days ago
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

A) thats why Impeachment proceedings have been filed against Bondi

B) the law didn't include any actual penalties or enforcement clauses

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was mostly black, to be fair!

...I'll get my coat

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

File 468 didn't delete itself

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It never existed in the first place, because it means the bad luck..it's like number 13 in the rows of buses or airplanes etc. they just skip that number all together. /s

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Now there's more than a dozen missing, it's so nice of them to point out which ones are the most important, to save the people who downloaded the full set some time =)

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

I'm putting this on a T-shirt, on the front.

On the back it'll say, "And Epstein didn't hang himself"

[–] BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

People on mastodon are posting that it’s gone now. From the official posting/archive.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If we as a society could just start treating sexual abuse victims with respect and kindness, there'd be no justification for redactions and the whole truth could come out.

Sadly, not gonna happen.

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