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A federal appeals court on Wednesday blocked Michigan’s ban on conversion therapy for minors who are LGBTQ+, declaring it violates the First Amendment rights of therapists and counselors.

In a 2-1 opinion, the court said the law illegally restricts speech that reflects the moral beliefs of therapists. It set aside a lower court’s ruling and granted a preliminary injunction sought by Catholic Charities of Jackson, Lenawee and Hillsdale Counties.

“The Michigan law discriminates based on viewpoint — meaning the law permits speech on a particular topic only if the speech expresses a viewpoint that the government itself approves,” Judge Raymond Kethledge wrote, joined by Judge Joan Larsen.

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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So does this mean that basically all licensing requirements are also struck down? Can I open my bloodletting and phrenology practice?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They have allowed chiropractors to continue their dangerous scam for decades, so you probably could've gotten away with that even before this.

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Chiropractors: why yes, I’m a mental health professional myself.

Touched your hand and sings “everything’s going to be all right”
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Haha, I accidentally the spinal cord. Whoopsiedaisy!"

-Chiropractors

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Aw nuts, killed another infant."

  • Chiropractors
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Sorry about causing you to have a stroke! Haha, I am kidding, just like I was kidding about being a medical doctor. My "doctorate" is also a lie that has no basis on actual science whatsoever!"

-Also chiropractors

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

Honestly they'd probably be doing less harm if that's what they did.

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Why stop there? Start a false advertising firm!

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's zero scientific or empirical evidence that conversion therapy is safe and effective, but there is definite evidence of the opposite. That's why it's banned. Is attaching leeches to people still allowed on free speech grounds?

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is attaching leeches to people still allowed on free speech grounds?

It's still a valid medical procedure for reattaching fingers. https://www.tgh.org/institutes-and-services/treatments/leech-therapy

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hey, if there's evidence it works.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If TV taught me anything, it's more than just that. It pops up in medical shows for various things on occasion.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So, uh conversion therapy falls under free speech ... but if someone claims to feel at home with lgbtq is not free speech?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think some red states might actually benefit from therapists that specialize in helping people feel comfortable with their sexuality.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

No that's gender-affirming care, that's banned

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago

"Your honor, the officer who tackled me for screaming 'I have a bomb!' in the middle of the airport was restricting my free speech rights."

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago

Oh so this applies to gender-affirming therapy too... right?

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Oh fuck off

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

So conversion therapy for straight kids will also be allowed right.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need religious liberation therapy, if anything, to get people out of believing in these harmful fairytales

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Mandatory SLT (Straight Liberation Therapy), seems like a viable use case as well.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Calling it conversion "therapy" is validating it. Call it for what it is - torturing and often murdering gay kids.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Bribing politicians? Also free speech!

Yeeeahh . . . That’s the ticket!