These morons lost the EV race to china so they are trying their hardest to keep that oldass tech alive.
Lmao.
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I'm really wondering how the west thinks they'll continue to sell this cold war with China.
China: Please buy our better products that we are selling at lower prices.
The West: China is trying to destroy the western world! We must prepare for war!
Everyone with an Internet connection: Uh, yeah, can we get one of those electric cars that cost half as much and is better in every way?
The funny thing is that the answer to the wests failures is literally just to be more like China. Central planning in vital sectors like infrastructure and transportation. Instead we just have a ruling class that wants to burn oil and start wars with countries that aren't attacking us.
We literally just stole an oil ship because we made up a rule about trade that we don't allow between two completely independent countries that never agreed to that rule. It's comical how awful we are.
Like, for some reason Venezuela can't sell oil to Cuba because we said so. That's it. It's literally just because we said so.
The funny thing is that the answer to the wests failures is literally just to be more like China. Central planning in vital sectors like infrastructure and transportation. Instead we just have a ruling class that wants to burn oil and start wars with countries that aren’t attacking us.
That would require giving up on the ultra-liberal reduced-state no-regulation orthodoxy which has put so much power in the hands of Money and money in the pockets of Politicians.
The entire top of the current Western power structures is against it, hence we're going down the route of Collapse Through Stagnation.
The greed and power tripping is a dangerous thing.
keeping the russia and the MIDDLE east economy afloat, because the politicians pockets are in too deep with these 2 countries
this is what pisses me off about every net zero by 2050 or whenever plan, they will do nothing until 2045 and then just give up or kick the can again.
“We didn’t put in any effort until the last minute and now we can’t easily do it. It’s not fair to our shareholders”
If I tried to use that bs as a a reason for being late ate work I wouldn’t have a job there anymore
Or expelled with the same attitude towards rent
Or a presentation or an essay or exercise or utility bills or...
Or what?
Yes, a habitable planet for humanity would be nice, but have you considered the portfolios of a few selfish assholes?
But have you considered that those assholes lobbied very hard to protect their interest? Shouldn't their money and time investment be rewarded?
/s just in case
It's only fair!
The great thing is that it won't matter. EVs are going to become extremely cheaper and more efficient, making them the clear choice over the next couple years.
Cheaper for the industry to manufacture, certainly. Cheaper for the consumer to purchase, I have my suspicions.
I would love to see a return to smaller cars - sedans even - but the shareholders might not like lower profits per unit, so I'm not sure we're going to see prices plateau let alone decline.
I don't drive but I'd like to see a return to cars that aren't Orwellian spying devices.
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They're already very cheap as long as you only want two wheels and aren't fussed about having a roof.
Yeah, this whole thing sounds a lot like a section of horse-drawn carriage industry going down the route of committing suicide by using crooked politicians to try and stop the march of evolution via legislation rather that the route of adapting to an unstoppable change and thus surviving.
In 20 years time most of the companies pushing for this will be either be gone or become cottage shops and this shit will almost certainly also have negatively impacted the rest of the industry in Europe.
I think this is the difference between opening doors to the future vs closing doors to the past. When China funded EVs and battery research, they opened the door to the future. When the EU and US try to ban gas engines, they are trying to close the door to the past. Guess which one works.
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We are going extinct.
We're finally hitting the brakes...
Regarding environmental protection.
... Again
So from 2035 it was supposed to be possible to only sell cars with 100% reduction in CO2 emissions. They want to change it to 90% reduction and still allow to sell plug-in-hybrids which is bullshit because recent analysis of real life usage show that plug-in hybrids run on gas most of the time and are not nearly as efficient as estimated. They should focus on building charging infrastructure instead. German car industry is dying anyway.
I wonder how plug-in hybrids are that bad in terms of gas-to-electric ratio. Might need a proper source on that. Most usage should be from work-home travel, and that should be reachable with just electric power.
Maybe the solution is not simply to block hybrids, but to solve the reasons they don't drive electric. This could be putting more chargers at home/workplace or something else entirely (idk what the analysis pointed out as reason)
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What reset? This sounds made up.
"Opens new tab" ? Is this written by AI?
No, it's just an artifact of copying reuters
Opens new tab?
had to hide the porn one
Data is the new oil, where you will be poor and have no privacy.
https://apnews.com/article/auto-car-privacy-3674ce59c9b30f2861d29178a31e6ab7
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