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Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) on Wednesday introduced a bill that would pull the United States out of the NATO alliance.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.) said she would co-sponsor the bill, while Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) has introduced companion legislation in the upper chamber.

“NATO is a Cold War relic. We should withdraw from NATO and use that money to defend our own country, not socialist countries,” Massie said in a statement.

“NATO was created to counter the Soviet Union, which collapsed over thirty years ago. Since then, U.S. participation has cost taxpayers trillions of dollars and continues to risk U.S. involvement in foreign wars,” he added.

Russian asset does Russian asset things.

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 93 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As Russia is actively invading countries

Massie is the worst human

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

There's a lot of competition for that title. A shocking amount.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://www.newsweek.com/thomas-massie-ukraine-russia-vote-aid-1891701

"Massie was one of just six House members who voted against a bill to call on the government to collect evidence "related to war crimes and other atrocities committed during the full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine."

"Massie was also just one of three House members to vote "no" on a bill to end normal trade relations with Russia and Belarus, which has supported Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, as well as a bill to ban imports of Russian oil, coal and gas."

"Massie was one of three House members who voted against a bipartisan resolution in which the lower chamber said they would stand "steadfastly, staunchly, proudly, and fervently behind the Ukrainian people in their fight against the authoritarian Putin regime."

"in 2017, Massie had met with Maria Butina, a Russian citizen who was sentenced to 18 months in prison in 2019 after admitting to acting as an unregistered foreign agent to infiltrate conservative political groups and influence foreign policy to Russia's benefit before and after the 2016 election."

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-lee-putin-utah-debate-evan-mcmullin-1752624

"he (Senator Mike Lee), alongside Kentucky's Rand Paul, were the only two senators who voted against imposing financial sanctions on Russia for interfering in the 2016 election."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/03/mike-lee-russia-visa-1479983

"Sen. Mike Lee received a visa to travel to Russia this week, according to his spokesman, after the Kremlin denied visas to several of his colleagues.

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, both members of the Foreign Relations Committee, said last week the Russian government refused to grant them visas."

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you're saying he's a piece of shit?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

More specifically, he's literally a traitorous Russian asset.

[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This could be a game changer. Once the threat of NATO involvement is gone Canada can finally invade the U.S..

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

I, for one, welcome our future Canadian overlords, with open arms.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Invade? Don't you mean liberate?

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't it great that these russian assets keep telling us who they are so they are easier to find

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So what do we reckon Putin has on this guy?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Massie's brand of libertarianism has made getting out of every intentional organization and treaty a big part of their America First white nationalist message for a long while.

This goes back long before Putin.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean the Russians don't have anything on him.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm genuinely curious to see what qualifies as compromat in the modern political climate. You've got folks fully undeterred in running for office who have been held done dead to rights on child sex trafficking charges. And you've got AI generated slop used to smear people in municipal elections.

Meanwhile, this is policy Massie campaigns on. It's not like he's risking his neck to run on leaving NATO. It's his whole brand.

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There are definitely pictures of Trump wearing a propeller hat and getting spit roasted by Putin and Kim Jong-il, while Epstein jerks off in the corner.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve seen the error of my ways, and corrected it.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 21 points 3 weeks ago

That includes bringing every soldier abroad back home and leaving Europe? If it's included, as an Spanish citizen, I have only one question: where do we have to sign for that?

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thomas Massie, Anna Paulina Luna and Mike Lee should immediately withdraw from office so we can stop paying those Jim Crow relics their salaries. We should use that money to pay someone who will work for the people instead of total fealty to a dictators like Trump and Putin.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Libertarians will cut every federal program at arms length, but they'll never cut their own salaries.

It's always other people's money they're after

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who says Republicans are in bed with the Russians?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world -3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

Do it! Get that traitor country out!

[–] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps it is time once again to view the historical documentary known as "Red Dawn."

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Defend against ...fishermen instead?

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

USA = pull out king

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

Wrong method, right answer kind of thing. NATO is far too much of a US sock puppet.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club -1 points 3 weeks ago