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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by octoperson@sh.itjust.works to c/autism@lemmy.world

This is one of a series of discussion posts based on questions from the AQ-10 autism test.

7. I find it easy to work out what someone is thinking or feeling just by looking at their face.

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Is this statement true for you? Can you think of any examples? Is it an easy or difficult question for you to answer?

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[-] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haha. I have opinions on this one. I think I'll wait a bit before discussing it so as not to bias anyone else's response.


(Later)

a collection of 20 photos of a man expressing different facial expressions

Look at all those emotions! Can you name them all? These pictures are used in emotional intelligence tests where they'll ask you to do exactly that - name them all.

What they won't ask you is, how is the photoshoot going for this guy? Is it his normal line of work and how does this particular job compare to a regular day? Are any of the faces difficult for him to make? Is he trying to method act them, does he have some rehearsed, does he have his own reference pictures to look at? Does he have a rapport with the photographer? Is the lighting bothering him? Is he tired? Does the shoot have catering? What's he planning on doing later?

They don't ask any of that because, obviously, you can't tell what someone is thinking or feeling just by looking at their face.

Now, if you could see the context, if you knew something about the guy, could see how he was acting and what he was saying, then you could make a guess at some of this information. Maybe even a good guess. But just from the face alone? No chance!

Here is what emotional intelligence practitioners don't want you to know about faces;

Facial expressions are live action emoji, that you act out with your face to communicate the idea of an emotion. They are not windows into the soul.

This question is garbage. Definitely Disagree

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, tests like that are "what emotion is this person pretending to have" not "what emotion does this person have". Psychiatrists act like that's the same thing, which is just wrong. If they asked the Correct question, they might get higher scores from ASD participants.

[-] TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I routinely have to tell people to be more blunt with me; it seems like I'm always getting in trouble or yelled at or whatever for not picking up on their apparently obvious hints. No, fam, you have to use your words... just like you taught me when I was a kid.

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

See... I don't know. I've been repeatedly told by academics and the like that I can't, and also that "normal" people have this magical "mind-reading" ability. But I'm not sure how true that actually is. I've certainly never felt that I've misread someone's face, although I'm not sure how I could tell. I certainly feel like I could look at someone's face and feel the same emotions they are.

I just did one of those online tests about reading faces (specifically "emotional intelligence", blegh) and apparently got slightly above average? But the faces were extremely exaggerated, not animated, presented without context and rather opinionated (this face is feeling XYZ because their facial muscles are doing ABC).

Maybe I rely more on context cues and empathy than actual reading of someone's face? No idea.

Edit: I do agree with the sentiment about bluntness though. I can be very oblivious.

[-] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ohoh my own updated response is very dismissive of those emotional intelligence tests, and the notion that normal people can read your mind through your face. I very much enjoyed Ponderful's (very long) video on the subject, and you might too.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

I am not to my knowledge on the autism spectrum.

I think there's a big difference between what someone's thinking and feeling. Like, I can tell if someone looks like they're deep in thought from their face but there's no way without more context to know what they're thinking about. If they're looking at a restaurant menu it's probably what to order, but they could also be thinking about anything.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Strong disagree

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] teraflopsweat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Slightly agree for me

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