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List of recent hostile moves by Googles Chrome team (mastodon.social)
submitted 2 years ago by 1984@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Re-parsing that for anyone trying to read that but struggling with the formatting war crime from OP.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Everything we can do push people away from Chrome (and some other Chromium browsers like Edge) the better. Their market share gives them the power to dictate terms. Their search share and marketing dominance would still give them too much power, but at least not "dictate how the web works" power.

I started seeing these red flags back when they were pushing the https everywhere initiative. Because, while there were a lot of insecure sites that are now more secure, there are also billions upon billions of pages that have no need to expend the CPU cycles (wasting electricity and increasing carbon footprints) on encrypting and decrypting all external traffic. But site admins had to do it or chrome would make a stink. If "hackers" find out I was looking up stroganoff recipes on a site I'm not signed into, I think I'll find a way to cope with the intrusion.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

If “hackers” find out I was looking up stroganoff recipes on a site I’m not signed into, I think I’ll find a way to cope with the intrusion.

If your ISP can track your web traffic Google's position is weaker

[–] jcrabapple@dmv.pub 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I switched to Firefox/Librewolf (with a brief stint on Vivaldi) last year and haven't looked back.

[–] ffolkes@fanexus.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've used nothing but Firefox on all desktops/laptops since 2004. I really don't understand how or why anyone would switch away.

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I really don't understand how or why anyone would switch away.

Performance. Been switching on & off for the past several years, currently with Firefox with over a year.

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because for the longest time Chrome smashed the stale arse Firefox out of the water in features and performance.

Personally I found Opera the best, but that’s Chinese shovelware now.

[–] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It really didn't... Firefox has been neck and neck performance wise the entire time with a massive arsenal of extensions (and to be fair some of those extensions did negatively impact performance enough to scare people off) and I can't think of a major feature Firefox didn't have first or get soon after.

Chrome largely just became a "speed meme" though among enthusiasts and had the backing from Google to win over IT teams.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have used a mixed of Netscape/Firebird/Firefox mostly for personal uses, along with at the time IE then Chrome mostly for professional stuff and banking (at the time) and developing. But for ~3 years now it's FF only, even on my phone. Google started their AMP stuff and all, and this DRM is the shit hitting the fan.

[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I hate AMP so much.

[–] mortrek@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Similar boat for me. Used Netscape, then Mozilla, then Firefox. FF got kinda bad for a while, and chrome came along and was quite good. Then Google got progressively more evil, chrome also started getting buggy and falling behind, and Firefox got really good again. I fully dumped chrome a couple years ago. No regrets.

[–] TheLeechiestLeech@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I keep hearing the counter argument that "Safari already shipped a version of WEI and no one made a fuss" but I can't tell if that's true or just missing a lot of nuance. Can someone explain?

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do I migrate all my grouped tabs from Chrome Mobile to Firefox/Librewolf/Waterfox/etc? Which one is best?

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Firefox/Librewolf/Waterfox/etc? Which one is best?

I would say this - use Firefox. If trying to use Firefox on work laptop and it was enshitted by your company's group policies, then Waterfox sounds like nice alternative which is unlikelly going to be impacted by GP.

[–] Anon819450514@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can get Firefox as standalone. No need to install it 🙌

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can, but the problem is group policy which is still enforced. I mean - Firefox still respects it.

[–] Metaright@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've never heard of Epiphany before. Anyone here have input?

[–] jcrabapple@artemis.camp 6 points 2 years ago

It's called gnome web now and it's quite good. Still being improved. Extension support is coming.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

https://github.com/GNOME/epiphany

This sound answer you question.