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It's been obvious for a while now that it's the British Political Class that's pro-Genocide, not the British Public.
Judging by the shit that's come out around Epstein, I wouldn't at all be surprised if it turns out Israel has a ton of Pedophilia-related blackmail material on top Tories and Labour politicians.
Shocking for whom?
Shocking for everyone complicit in the genocidal state that is Israel
"They just want to make music"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
established polling companies in that they were not used for the poll. in a statement they said,
"we are revising our polling techniques after famed pollster guru Pablo O’Hana revealed his 'pieced together ... in a nationally representative manner' method"
Why is this a shock? We generally don't like genocide, despite what our government may believe.
It’s been so heartening to see the recent resurrection of the British left wing. Still not out of the dark, but y’all are building some good momentum.
There should be an organized boycott of watching Eurovision and boycotting sponsors (if there isn't already). Nothing has greater impact in a capitalistic society than hitting them in the pocketbook. Maybe give it a derisive nickname like "Erasurevision" or "Eurodivision" or something to highlight that Eurovision supporters support genocide.
the sponsor is Moroccan Oil. I doubt we are even aware of it is used in any of our supply chains.
Which, despite the name, is an Israeli company. I highly doubt Israel will get kicked out while MO is running the show.
Australian here. IDK much about the feelings of Brits.
How could the populace feel so strongly about this divisive issue, while apparently such strong support for Farage exists, when I presume he would be pro-Israel?
... and seeing that I'm here, I have a bonus question: if Brits generally acknowledge that Brexit was a terrible idea, why isn't Farage tarnished by his ardent support for it?
Most right-wingers also don't like Israel anymore. However this usually is paired with heavy antisemitism. See also the rise of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens in the US.
Support for Farage is in the 30%-40% range (which would likely win him a thumping majority of know-nothing racist incompetent bozos, fruitcakes and loons), and being a far right hate-monger, he and his ardent supporters hate Israel, not because of the destruction of Gaza, but because Israel is Jewish. So yes, they're Islamophobic and Anti-Semitic at the same time!
this is not true at all. as somebody who unfortunately has had too many conversations with these people, they are staunchly in the pro-israel camp. have you not seen the marches for the UK where they carried israel flags? this is misinformation.
his ardent supporters hate Israel, not because of the destruction of Gaza, but because Israel is Jewish
Wow ok. Horseshoe political theory in action.
He's in the category of racists who claim not to be racist on the grounds that they hate all immigrants equally, irrespective of skin colour or nationality, which would still be horribly racist even if it were true. And it's not.
but hardly politically indistinguishable. just one similar conclusion.
That's how I understand horseshoe theory - they share some similar views for vastly different reasons.
I think "indistinguishable" might refer to some other phrase.
This isn't how the BBC works 😔.
There needs to be a paedophile scandal at the heart of the Eurovision team at the BBC for any action to be taken by the BBC. Until then you'll get weasel words and continued participation.
They didn't give a shit about Jimmy Savile raping children until after he was dead. It's not like they didn't know.
I'm not sure what it would take for the BBC to do the right thing, but I have a feeling it's a lot.
Paedophiles? No, that’s just a simple cover up. What they need is legal threats from the president of the USA.
Let's start saying that DEI actually stands for Diversity, Equity and Israel. That should clear the situation up in about a week.
I mean, the IOF have been proven to rape their hostages and they abduct a lot of children, so DEFINITELY wouldn't put child rape past the Beeb's favorite apartheid occupation force..
Well duh, in addition to the whole war crime thing, they aren't even in Europe.
Will the "will of the people" be followed in this so called democracy?
Democracy died under Kier Stalin /s
A significant portion of the UK government ministers have received donations (Definitely not just legal bribes) from Labour Friends of Israel, so it's heavily unlikely that they do anything disparaging towards Israel.
It's the main reason they're having such a hard time admitting they're complicit in an ongoing genocide.
Saw the parliamentary session questioning the police chiefs responsible for banning the Tel Aviv away fans to the recent football game. The MPs started the session with declarations of interest.
Chair: I welcome our first witness, on our first panel, in the one-off session that our Committee is holding to investigate the events surrounding the decision to ban away fans at the Aston Villa-Maccabi Tel Aviv game. Before we start, there will be some declarations of interest. I declare that I am an officer and member of the Conservative Friends of Israel.
Jo White: I am a member of Labour Friends of Israel.
Mr Kohler: I have received a donation of £2,000 from the Lib Dem Friends of Israel.
Peter Prinsley: I am a Jewish Labour MP.
The last one is irrelevant, but the fact that he felt he had to disclose it is fucked
well no because the eurovision is not a political event you see
No such thing as an event free from politics.
Exactly. I tell people, "you can ignore politics, but politics won't ignore you."
correct!
Would be a very rare occurrence if so. Like the US, the UK government is notorious for being extremely unrepresentative of the needs and wants of the people regardless of who's in power.
Not least classics such as zionism, cops, warfare, and education.
It's like being in a night club when they turn off the music and turn on the lights and you realise you've been dancing next to an eight year-old all night.
That is a weirdly specific image
Can we be removed from the Eurovision song contest? It's been crap for years now, it's never been about the songs which are frankly mostly terrible, it's an annual political contest.
thing is, it's fun and meaningless and brings people together. it means a lot to a lot of people.
Most of the time it's dumb politics. However, the artists are great and I've found a lot of hidden gems.
Käärijä at a festival was one of the most fun sets in any festival I've been to.
Also, it's a lot of fun to watch with friends and laugh about all the cringy shit happening.
Funnily enough, I knew Käärija more for this song than the Eurovision one, which admittedly is the only Eurovision song in recent years that I've really liked. Not that I hear very many.
I mean it sounds like you'd just be better off ignoring it, tbh.
That'll show em!