Don’t worry everyone if Russias economy collapses our American economy will help them out, nothing bad will ever come out of this…
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Fuck the US deal. Handing large parts of Ukraine to the russia. Fuck tRump.
We just need to keep up the pressure, and to do that America needs to either shut the fuck up and keep out of it, or come back into the fold
If all American foreign policy just disappeared the world would be at a net positive overnight - and it's not even close.
3 years of us arming Ukraine, encouraging them to NOT negotiate (when they had much better position to previously than they do now), and then abandoning them once we finished dumping all our weapons. America was proud to fight to the last Ukrainian.
Russia is like the bullie that punches you in the face.
America is like the bullie that spends weeks pretending to be your friend just so they can steal your lunch money, humiliate you in front of your friends, and then push you into the other bullie that'll punch you in the face for bumping into them.
Also, Trump just puts a blunt face to what America has always been. Foreign wars in this country are bipartisan. Ukraine would be just as fucked if Harris was president. She'd just have a better narrative for it to make Americans feel less guilty for the fucked up way we treat our "allies".
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the war has “dramatically improved” the incomes of 20% of Russians, it is hugely socially divisive. “For the bulk of Russians, real incomes have fallen by 16% to 42%,”
Like most wars, this is why they tend to go on so long - because those that are making the most money from the war, reinvest some of it to keep the war going as long as possible. After all, they aren't paying the price in money or blood, they just collect the spoils.
Putin’s readiness to risk the lives and wellbeing of ordinary Russians is only too evident, symbolised by the cynical signing-up fees and death benefits paid to infantry volunteers from poor rural areas – whose average frontline life expectancy is 12 days.
This is what will eventually end the war - they will simply run out of draftees, or the people will finally get sick of sacrificing their sons to advance corruption, and revolt, although that could be tough with any fighting-age men off getting slaughtered less than two weeks after joining. We may see something crazy like a Mother's Rebellion, with a million mothers marching on the Kremlin and taking it over. It would be pretty tough to get Russian soldiers to fire on their own mothers.
the people will finally get sick of sacrificing their sons
This is what happened in the US with Iraq and Afghanistan, arguably similar forever-wars instigated to benefit a few. But holy fuck, it took nearly two decades.
I don't know about that, I wasn't hearing too many calls to end the over the number of soldiers being killed. Casualties were fairly low in the 9/11 wars, compared to Vietnam, which had 55,000 deaths in about a decade.
Calls to end the war over the high body count were much, MUCH, louder in the Vietnam era, to the point that it became a political liability beyond the young protesters. That's why they finally abolished the draft, then probably would have left soon anyway, if they hadn't been chased out by the North Vietnamese.
In Afghanistan and Iraq, there seemed to be more outrage over the amount of money that was being wasted to keep a war going with no real agenda or final objective. After a while it gets hard for Republicans to complain about the National Debt when they are wasting trillions of dollars on wars over nothing.
It would be pretty tough to get Russian soldiers to fire on their own mothers.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Those who would refuse to fire would get shot. Now they may not try very hard to aim well, but still.
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Been waiting for Russia to collapse since 2014ish
Might outlast the US.
Couldn't care less if they all fall. The only good thing about the US is they speak the same language as me.
Also Scarlett Johansson
Scarlett Johansson
You make an excellent point.
I do hope that, when the US fractures, Caloreginton will continue to provide good work for talented people in entertainment. Or at least a plane ticket to Hollywood North.
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Pretty solid and good read. Also love the last paragraph.
I hope Putin is discovered while fleeing, and promptly suffers the divine plight of kings...
Really, all dictators should end up this way.
People in Britain who think they are governed by fools should take a closer look at the Russian and US presidents.
That bigger fools exist doesn't stop your fools from screwing up too.
Two fools don't make a lesser fool.
Fucking good. I’m tired of the petty North Atlantic and Arctic sabotage missions. Ukraine can keep hitting oil refineries and eventually they won’t be able to afford to buy foreign fuel.
False hope title.
The modern internet and media age in a nutshell: "Everything you believe in is succeeding and your enemies are getting DESTROYED with facts and logic."
Scary
News websites need to stop saying Russia's economy is crashing, I feel like I've read this headline 100 times over the last 3 years. It's the wartime economy of a petro-state, they don't need that many outside buyers of their oil to make their highly controlled domestic wartime production work. Traditional global indicators of economic health shouldn't be applied for as long as this continues, claiming otherwise is just false hope and a poor excuse for providing less help to Ukraine.
Yep. It's far from over for Putin. Got really lucky with Trump, and with slow and divided EU. Plus Gaza genocide to avert the attention. Still ain't over but i feel Ukraine is on the ropes. I hope they prove me wrong.
None of the circumstances you mentioned were luck. Trump is his patsy, Trump is closely aligned with Israel (Netanyahu), and Russia is a primary instigator of European discord. His international game is on point.
The election of Trump was lucky. He helped but it was not like he knew trump would win.
You know that's hilarious after another post from the same news paper says that we are now aligned with Putin's plan for the future.
So yes we are killing them but I'm reality we are helping them and killing ourselves. Yay.
Fuck maga fuck the pedos of the GOP for being traitors to the US. They should be hanged. Billionaires should also be hanged.
But oh well, one last thing the US is coming for the dual citizenship in the US. People are gonna have less opportunity to leave once the shit falls off the fan.
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