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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 50 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We just called it the Creed voice even though Pearl Jam came out first.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Creed is just the ~~diet~~ Christian Rock version of Pearl Jamb

[–] Ele7en7@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes, my favorite kind of door jamb, the pearl.

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

godDAMNIT

I'm leaving it up

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I’d check it out

[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Ray Charles beat them all (kinda, sometimes)

MadTV did a good skit about this years ago

https://youtu.be/FhEpv14L-b0

[–] mirisgaiss@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

bunch of people I know have been calling it "underbite rock" for years, making the face and doing the voice just kinda go together

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

War leaf. War leaf. War leaf ayyy.

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I enjoy both hearing and performing the yarl, ya know, in moderation.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One verse of yarl a day is okay. Might even be beneficial if it's red yarl.

[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

Agreed. If every song I heard had it, I’d grow tired of it, but that’s not been the case for a long time (if ever).

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 13 points 1 month ago

When I was a kid, I called it "mumbly-whine"

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh. I called it "singing through your teeth". That's how I karaoke 90s songs! Had no idea there was was a word for it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'd say stop doing it, but since it's karaoke it's almost like you have to do it.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I watched the video and still don't understand why she wants / wanted to get rid of yarling. She makes points but it's just a different sound overall rather than a "worse" sound IMO. It makes the bands she references feel iconic and unique.

[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because it kills the resonance and shrinks the sound. She explains the reasons with examples and everything.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah she did say that but still it's just different, not bad. I don't understand why it would be bad. Lots of artists have unique differences and I appreciate that

[–] verdi@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Grifting Youtuber vs Eddie Vedder 😏 I think I know which one I prefer. This is yet another slight on the working class bands of the 80s and 90s. What's next, no more growls in death metal? Everyone has their schtick.

Fucking youtube grifters...

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"Yeah but she's a woman" - Lemmites

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

"distinctive"

[–] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A buddy of mine called it emphysema rock back in the day and that term has stuck with me through the years.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

But that doesn't make sense

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

I just thought I disliked most grunge

Turns out there's a name for exactly what I don't like about it!

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

'Don't do that thing that these several clearly successful musicians do because it'll make you sound weird.'

Having a word for it is fun but this woman is a dunce.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

What's the style of singing Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain, and some other grunge singers have called? 🤔

Would those also be yarling?

[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't think those two yarl at all. Nor do they have similar singing styles at all really.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The style of Kurt Cobain doesn't resemble Chris Cornells (and vice versa) at all though.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The charismatic voice is working with the university of Alabama(I think it was) to understand metal and Rock singers vocal techniques. Chris Cornell has come up many times in those videos

She has done a lot of videos on them and, as professionally trained opera singer and vocal coach, is very much a fan of what that end of the vocal pool has done

Worth checking out some of her videos. Certainly better than whoever the hell this idiot is

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Cornell fries his vocals(lightly) to reach high notes.

Cobain fries his vocals because he can't sing.

edit: ok, fine, cool off, I apologize. I didn't mention that Cornell uses a decent amount of falsetto, and exceedingly well, I might add. Best singer of the 90's for rock was Layne Staley, followed closely by Scott Weiland.

Still tho, love Cornell. Not even joking tho, Cobain works fine in a high intensity band and probably would've done great at hardcore. I just find him kinda forced on slow tracks.

Worst? Henry Rollins. Henry Rollins himself will tell you he can't sing and has on camera.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago

Technically, niether one of them can sing. Anymore.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cobain doesn’t fry. His voice naturally went there without being forced to.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Henry Rollins + William Shatner.

It's excellent and shouldn't be.

Can't get behind that from the Has Been album

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 1 points 1 month ago

my god, Weiland was beautiful. too bad he was a train wreck.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I would say so.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I wonder why some people seem to change their voices when they sing

[–] tacotroubles@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd assume its to achieve a certain style that they the singer find pleasing or complementary to the rest of the bands signature sound.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

My favorite band with the most distinctive vocal sound is The Blood Brothers… They stopped the band very young and it makes total sense why—you can’t vocalize like that for too long without completely frying your voices.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Oh fair, yeah.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you’d rather they just talked?

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Often happens when speaking different languages too.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's a great analogy

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

There's a lot of necessity there. Our natural speaking voices use the throat and lungs in a different way than any singing techniques. And, there's multiple ways of using them to get a desired sound.

So there's some degree of style involved, but past a certain point you have to change your voice to sing rather than just speak in tune (which is still a valid thing of its own)

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fashion. British acts go through eras of sounding American, then sounding as British as possible, then American again.

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's a good point, yeah.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I absolutely hate the thing Eddie Vedder does and it was kind of a rift with my housemates at uni, who were too unsophisticated to understand The Jesus & Mary Chain like me. If everything is so emotionally intense that you might just die at any moment, then nothing is.

He was good on Twin Peaks The Return though.

[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Isn't that like 100% of what Shakira does?

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

it's not a tv studio