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Hillary Clinton is facing a deluge of criticism after stating that young Americans' growing support for Palestinians is influenced by "totally made-up" videos on TikTok and suggesting that American youth - including young Jews - "don't know history and don't understand" Israel's war on Gaza.

Speaking on Tuesday at a summit hosted by the right-wing Israeli paper Israel Hayom in New York City, the former Democratic presidential candidate expressed her concerns that “smart, well-educated young people” in America and around the world are getting a lot of their information, including about Israel and Palestine, from social media platforms like TikTok.

The former US secretary of state described it as "serious problem for democracy", remarking that when she attempted to have "reasonable discussions" with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 30 minutes ago

Sadly the "New Dems" is Richie Torres and Hakeem Jeffries.

So what Hillary is saying is the Democrat position, not just the old guard.

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 minutes ago

Why would context even matter? A genocide is a genocide no matter the context. It can NEVER be justified.

I have had similar discussions with a right-wing conspiracy theorist (friend of my dad) that also used to justify genocide. I do think and hope that our conversation has led to some positive change in his views. He used to get super triggered when I called what is happening is Palestine a genocide but today I think he accepts it. Or at least he no longer denies it completely. I have stood my ground and kept challenging whatever he has said.

Don't give up on the people around you! Take the discussion, challenge their views. Call out any attempt to justify genocide. You don't need to argue with these people about facts, history or whatever. Just a call out of any attempt to justify genocide is enough. Don't let them keep spreading their hate unchallenged. Violence and hate can never win.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 26 minutes ago

I don't use tiktok

Am pro palestine

make it make sense

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No one likes you or your opinions, Hillary. Your time was over when you lost to Piggy. That was 11 years ago. Now just stfu.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

This is how I know she has no shame. If I had lost to the orange kiddie fiddling rapist (in what was the easiest race to win in a long time) then I could never face the world because of the shame.
It would be unbearable for me.
I'd live as a hermit for the rest of my life, and on my death I'd just use the funeral as a stage to apologise for allowing the disgusting blob of a cunt to win.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 hours ago

I can't believe people still pay her to speak at these events. What a waste of money.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 27 points 12 hours ago

Hillary Clinton is literally a psychopath

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

She should Pokemon Go the fuck out of politics.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

She's not in politics. No one voted for her, how sad is it say you lost to Donald Trump?

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago

More like Pokemon Go to the grave

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

What a fucking massive twat. No wonder bubba went gay for Trump.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

gee maybe you should ask your mentor, arch fucking ghoul nixon enabler Henry Kissinger for some advice IN HELL

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The former US secretary of state described it as “serious problem for democracy”, remarking that when she attempted to have “reasonable discussions” with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".

Look, lady, at some point the prior history doesn't matter. The history we're experiencing right the fuck now is a single day, a single attack, by Hamas responded to by two fucking solid years of calculated extermination and nullification of the Palestinian people.

It doesn't fucking matter what happened thirty god damned years ago when the average age in Gaza before Oct 7th 2023 was fucking sixteen! Guess what Hillary you fucking idiot, 16 year olds haven't been alive long enough to have had anything to fucking do with that history!

The fucking audacity of her ass to be talking about the "history!"

Of all people, this bitch deserved to lose to Trump. She even used her connections to promote him in the media because she was fucksure she would end up in the general election against Jeb Bush. That's what you get for fucking over Bernie Sanders!

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Well I mean even if you do look back historically Israel took the land from the Palestinians and displaced like 700,000 of them.

That is why that war will never, ever end. They stole that land. It wasn't theirs.

I like how they leave out that part of history though. Don't wanna talk about that or you're antisemitic which is absolutely bullshit.

Steal peoples land and then act all surprised when generations of them want you to die and get their land back. Seems simple enough.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 36 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. These "centrists" can go sit on a cactus

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

We need to stop calling them centrists and call a spade a spade. They're conservatives, plain and simple.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t even like using that stupid left-right sliding scale to describe American politicians anymore. That’s not what most of these people are. They are just conduits for oligarchy to filter money from the working class to the elites and don’t hold any real personal ideology beyond that. They campaign on divisive social issues but for the majority of them that’s really where it truly ends within the context of political ideology as a working class man OR as someone who studies the philosophy of politics understands it.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

You've successfully and correctly identified the problem with using the "left-right sliding scale" to describe America as being that there is no left.

Something something a liberal something a fascist bleeds

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 96 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Go fight Donnie over Bubba's dick and shut the fuck up. Genocide is bad, mmmkay? Can't believe its hard to grasp.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's only hard to grasp because her and the entire politician class have been receiving ~~donations~~ bribes from Israel for decades.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes American politicians value money and shareholder value more than human lives. They prove it every single day and not just foreigners either they hate the US citizens just as much.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I have the feeling that she targeted too the same preys

[–] Tinks@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

I spent two years in college studying the history of the Middle East and specifically the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I have never been on TikTok. Then where the fuck did my pro-Palestine views come from? I know the history very well and Israel has been unreasonable assholes from the beginning. Yes, Hamas and Palestine need to stop leading with violence, but when you're fighting for your country's literal existence it's a bit of a moral grey area. The whole situation is a shit show and it infuriates me that Israel has so much support from the US. Without the 800lb gorilla backing them I feel like they'd have been forced to negotiate a reasonable solution long ago. Instead, here we are with a wildly disproportionate response that is 2 years long and the US has effectively cheered them on.

Hilary and her entire generation of politicians can get fucked.

[–] Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 63 points 16 hours ago

Prime example of how boomers lack media literacy skills.

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 44 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Ah yes, because some historical context will certainly justify the genocide.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

Historical context show that palestinians was victim of settler colonialism and ethrnic cleansing

[–] Falafelicious@lemmy.zip 20 points 14 hours ago

Even then it doesn't. Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. They didn't just appear overnight. They're the remnants of Canaanites and Jews who stayed after they were exiled. Many of them adopted Islam and Arab culture during the conquests. Arabs didn't come in and wipe out the indigenous population and replace them. Same with Egyptian, Libyan, and Turkish people. That's why they're not all the same and have drastically different cultures and languages, and not just standard Arabic.

[–] alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think the Google Maps view of the whole fucking Middle East is why people support Palestine

"There didn't used to be a hole there....something ain't right"

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Better yet, just look at historical maps of the region and see how long the Zionist effort has been going on. She’s out of touch and THATS WHY SHE LOST TO TRUMP.

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago

That's weird because I've never been on that app, am older, and probably hold some similar views. So where are my views coming from? You just have to have a heart and then you can see things correctly. It's only fair to hold standards against everyone. Israel doesn't get a pass. Not on morality.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Hillary... You're barely a has-been at best, and Bill cuck at worst. Kindly fuck off into obscurity and even more irrelevance, nobody wants to hear your dog shit, conservative opinion.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

Fuck you bitch. We should have had Bernie Sanders as our president, instead we got Hilary as a failed candidate

[–] PKscope@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

While I concede it's not only possible, but in fact, likely that many people are unaware of the 10 volume set of War and Peace size novels which recount the history of conflict in the Middle East, I find it incredibly out-of-touch that she can't understand that the starving and murder of an entire ethnic group is considered abhorrent by a large amount of the youth.

We don't need to know every facet to know genocide when we see it. I'm so tired of the constant Israel propaganda here in the states. You'd think they were the superpower and we were completely beholden to them in every way with the amount of kowtowing our politicians do. It's insane.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 8 points 14 hours ago

Even if you read the history of Palestine for the last 100 years it only reinforces that Israel is a far-right apartheid state hellbent on the extermination of the inhabitants of that land in the name of Jewish supremacy.

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Is she seriously stuck on the whole "Israel doesn't bomb hospitals" crap?

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago

Of course it's other people who are misinformed, don't understand the context and have a one-sided view of the war. It can't possibly be her.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why are these asshats so reluctant to admit that Isreal is in the wrong?!?

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

💰💰💰

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Hillary should worry more about Bill being in the epstein files and stfu

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

She should have divorced his ass years ago but she had her own ambitions. Fuck her

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

She needs to Pokemon gtfoh

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Hillary Clinton's mouth to blame for everyone's disdain of Hillary Clinton.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

She might be right about young people not having much context as a general rule - I've seen this kind of Dunning-Kruger thing before when someone in their teens/twenties first comes across something and they start to have some political awakening. Think of the way that some people fall into the most maximalist of positions on the spectrum and how cringe it often seems, often to later versions of that very person, LOL.

Anyway, I think the cracks on Israel being some united front on our "special relationship" with them and as far as the average U.S. citizen supporting it w/o question have been starting long before TikTok was even a thing.

And most of the people I've talked to over the years, or things I've seen others write/say online has had plenty of context. Hell, Chomsky has been out there talking about this for decades. It's just that the gatekeeping corporate media chokehold on people being able to talk to one another about this, en masse has been loosened, starting in the late 90s.

Used to be someone could yell "anti-semite" at anyone questioning us doing Israel's every whim and that was the end of the conversation. That tactic's effectiveness started to erode with the rise of the 'net. Are some of the people that obsess about Israel/Gaza and Jews/Palestinians anti-semitic? Of fucking course they are. Is everyone? Hell no.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

What a useless ankle. I mean that in the Arkansas view of that word. Another hateful useless person who wont accept that their version of history is a lie. The document that gave isreal statehood also gave the same for Palestine and they have never honored it. That is the history of it you useless piece of shit. Another horrible person who has no idea how horrible they are.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I've been watching TikTok and didn't even know it.

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