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Maybe one day the UK left will pick a good name

Meanwhile the Your Party UK left are asking themselfs if they should purge the trotskists

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Not to side with the trots, but lets be honest What have the UK left achieved in the last 60 years? That country its still an imperialist neolib hellhole since thatcher

Corbynism has yet to win One election

Also this

🚨 NEW: Zarah Sultana is boycotting the first day of Your Party conference today after some grassroots members were expelled

Spokesperson: β€œThis witch hunt is indefensible. We must build a party that welcomes all socialists. She will not be entering the conference hall today”

what a mess of a party lmao

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[–] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

My parents were watching the stream of the conference yesterday and the feed cut out multiple times because people kept coming up saying they were going to make a statement relevant to whatever vote was going on, only to immediately pivot to accusing some faction or other within the parry of being wreckers.

Absolute circus of a party.

[–] puppygirlpets@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

agony-mescaline

stalin should have killed trotsky sooner

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It also seems the 'right' of the party is successfully pushing for as big of a tent as possible, wanting to work with anyone under the umbrella of a "social alliance", even if the people involved are anything but social. What could go wrong.

Considering all the infighting and controversy that's already happened, and the dubious people they were putting in important positions (including a transphobic landlord), I expect more nonsense down the line.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

You'd think Corbyn would've learned from his time in Labour, that letting the right wing of the party call all the shots only results in the party being torn apart and turned into Tory-lite.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The UK left is embarrassing, and I say that as an American.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

At least the US has PSL

https://xcancel.com/AaronBastani/status/1995125308962263189

Your Party’s Shockat Adam says he would defy any party whip if there was a call to ban landlords, though says he’d always favour renters.

One of multiple landlords in the party said he'd vote against a bill banning landlords. shocked-pikachu

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 28 points 5 days ago

The party is crumbling into infighting even before they've chosen a name lmao

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I supported Your Party for a whole, what, two days and then it was back to the Greens (even if they’re not as left wing as Corbyn I’ll genuinely do anything to prevent a Reform government).

Corbyn is just terrible at running a political party imo.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

i do wonder how the greens will seize this opportunity to grow / evolve. right now they seem very obama-coded promising hope and change. not sure if that is sustainable long term.

for corbyn, i completely agree. he is a great speaker but i dont think he is good at making decisions

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

All the uk trot groups are a hotbed of spycops, the only thing they do is try to wreck every single thing. Keeping them out will be a positive. Won't keep the wreckers out entirely but it'll reduce their numbers to a level that's less likely to get anything done.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All the uk trot groups are a hotbed of spycops, the only thing they do is try to wreck every single thing.

tbf, that is also just what trots do

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

That's what makes it so perfect for the removed

Edit: Didn't expect that removed, is that word (ghost but beginning with s) problematic in this context? There's kinda a whole famous tv show with that word as its name.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's also a slur for black people in the US

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

it is but also I don't think Ive literally heard it used as a slur in my entire life, i'm pretty sure the generation that u.s it as a slur is either dead or actively dying

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

https://www.etymonline.com/columns/post/spooky-speculation

I don't think the etymology really supports much of a link between the use as a racial slur and the use to refer to undercover agents.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

Ok good so I'm not being inadvertently racist then, phew.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think Joe Biden said it once.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago

The only reason i know this is because of back to the future

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Kudos to the people there voting for "Our Party" for having recognized this has been a clown show for a while, you might aswell try to get a "Who's on first?"-Bit out of it.

[–] Bob_Odenkirk@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think Your is funnier than Our, more confusing at least.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think "Our Party (formerly known as Your Party)" would lead to optimal who's on first results here

[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

Green's strategy meeting:

"Our Party is surging ahead in the polls"

"YAYYY!"

"No, not our party, y'know Your Party?"

"You're leaving the party? But we're winning!"

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago
[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

For the love of god if 'Your Party' is chosen, I'm going to crash out what name is that?!

[–] hollowmines@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The name question seems to be the least of their problems.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it not an insignificant one

I saw on a lefty fb group a macro saying 'I stand with Your Party' and had to explain to people why it sounded stupid

Popular alliance is only not entirely shit name up there

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

β€œAn Actual Labor Party” was right there

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Labor Party

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am joining you in the crashing out

[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

ooooooooooooooh I still can't believe those brits had the least creative idea and booked with it, they JUST separated from the "change" guy who surprise surprise did nothing and has the most MODEST of socdem reform and that crashed and burned.

[–] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Everyone should have given up on this the second corbyn decided to be bff's with bigoted landlords

IDK why British leftists need to grovel at the feet of an old man who has consistently showed he can't lead

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

Corbynism has yet to win One election

Lets not forget that Corbyn himself won two elections back to back within labor, and his failure was a failure to meaningfully seize power within the party at the behest of the movement that put him in charge.

I hope for Your Party's sake Corbyn and co have learned from this experience.

Another week, another new Your Party infighting nonsense. I don't even know what to say anymore. Just embarrassing.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

why it's so hard to organize around non-negotiable minimal program, jesus christ. this shit has been theorized for 100 years, including by brits like mcnair, but no. include some nicety that 75% should be real laborers (or have experience working real job for 10 years, whatever), and you have plausible party core.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Plaid it is, I ain't voting GreenATOs but I understand if your in england and don't have a better option

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago
[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

Corbynism has yet to win One election

to be fair, Corbyn did win on a local level.

[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Absolutely siding with the trots